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To: Joe NYC who wrote (231471)	4/25/2007 1:14:29 PM
From: FJB	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

I am sure there will be dedicated DC dies, because volume of DC >> QC. seekingalpha.com From the CC: Joseph Osha - Merrill Lynch Hi, folks. Back to Barcelona, you talked about that being available here in sample form in the second quarter. Are we going to see some of the Barcelona derivatives in the client products, in particular desktop, in the third quarter? I am also curious about this mix of Barcelona and Barcelona derivative versus the existing Brisbane 65 nanometer stuff. How do you see that toggling as the year progresses? Dirk R. Meyer First, you will see desktop variance of Barcelona in both two core and four core form in Q3 as well. Joseph Osha - Merrill Lynch On the desktop side? Dirk R. Meyer Yes, on the desktop side. And relative to mix, we are not going to go to that level of detail.

To: Joe NYC who wrote (231471)	4/25/2007 2:04:31 PM
From: nuclear	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Joe, Volume of DC is certainly much higher than QC. A perfect QC yield is 1/4 that of DC, so pretty disastrous for cost. For non-fully-functional QC to be disabled, it need to be designed that way. The non-functional core must be isolated. I have not look at the architecture in any detail, so I don't know for certain. With a large die, it is something that engineering would consider when they architect it. Redundancies have been attempted in the past to improve yields and often fail to work as expected or the redundant logic affected speed. The DRAM tried it. (I have read papers on it. Not sure whether it was commercialized) ATI tried it successfuly with R300 and Nvidia adopted this technique with NV40. With this, die sizes have gone up R600 and G80. ATI had horrible yields with R420. There was a severe shortage of X800XT for a few months with only X800 Pro available. Far more X800 Pro(12 pipes) were sold than X800XT (16 pipes). Nvidia also sell more 8800GT (disabled) than 8800GTS. In the early X800 Pro, it is truly a non fully functinal die but in later X850 (a respin of R420 called R423), a fair number have successfully flash their video BIOS to enable all quads making it behave like a X850XT. In GPU, Video BIOS contain info on which quad is disabled. For CPU, it will have to be on package itself. If done correctly, combined with disabled cache, cost savings can be significant. Nuclear