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To: Road Walker who wrote (335360)	4/25/2007 5:11:45 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575429

JF, > After approval it would probably be 10 years before we saw a drop and then it would be a tiny percentage of what we use. You're just echoing what MoveOver.org is saying. Like any other commodity, a small increase in the oil supply leads to a dramatic drop in prices. As for the 10 years, well we better get started building the drills, no? Tenchusatsu

To: Road Walker who wrote (335360)	4/25/2007 9:18:39 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1575429

Check it out: 56% of Americans want withdrawal from Iraq; 55% don't believe its winnable; 78% feel that things in Iraq have either worsen or have remainded the same during the past three months.....in other words, the surge ain't working; 78% of Americans don't believe that the country in on the right track.........the worse since the first Bush was in office. Bottomline: Jeb better give up the notion of running on the national level. __________________________________________________________ "Yet the poll shows that 56 percent say they agree more with the Democrats in Congress who want to set a deadline for troop withdrawal, versus the 37 percent who say they agree with Bush that there shouldn't be a deadline. What's more, 55 percent believe that victory in Iraq isn't possible. And 49 percent say the situation in Iraq has gotten worse in the last three months since Bush announced his so-called troop surge. Thirty-seven percent say the situation has stayed about the same, and just 12 percent think it has improved." "The pessimism about the war has also likely contributed to the country's overall sour mood. According to the poll, only 22 percent believe the country is on the right track. That's the lowest number on this question since October 1992, when Bush father's was running for a second term — and lost." ____________________________________________________________ Americans siding with Dems against Bush NBC/WSJ poll: Skepticism on Iraq policies reflected in 2008 candidates Mark Murray Deputy Political Director WASHINGTON - As the Democrat-controlled Congress and the White House clash over an Iraq spending bill, with President Bush vowing to veto it because it contains withdrawal deadlines, the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds that a solid majority of Americans side with the Democrats. In addition, a nearly equal number believe that victory in Iraq isn't possible, and about only one in eight think the war has improved in the three months since Bush called for a troop increase there. "They don't see the surge working," says Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted the survey with Republican pollster Neil Newhouse. Instead, they are saying "we need to get out." With those opinions, it's perhaps not surprising the poll also shows that the Democratic presidential front-runner who opposed the Iraq war from the start — Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. — has gained ground on Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., who voted to authorize the war and hasn't apologized for it, despite her increasingly antiwar rhetoric. And the candidate whose fortunes seem to be tied the most to the situation in Iraq — Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. — continues to trail former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani by double digits. In favor of a troop deadline The poll — which was taken of 1,004 adults from April 20-23, and which has an overall margin of error of 3.1 percentage points — comes as Congress considers an supplemental spending bill that would begin withdrawing troops from Iraq no later than Oct. 1, with the goal of having all combat troops leave by March 2008. The legislation hits the House floor on Wednesday, and heads to the Senate on Thursday. Bush opposes the bill and has threatened to veto it. "They know I'm going to veto a bill containing these provisions, and they know that my veto will be sustained," the president said on Tuesday. "But instead of fashioning a bill I could sign, the Democratic leaders chose to further delay funding our troops, and they chose to make a political statement. That's their right. But it is wrong for our troops and it's wrong for our country." Yet the poll shows that 56 percent say they agree more with the Democrats in Congress who want to set a deadline for troop withdrawal, versus the 37 percent who say they agree with Bush that there shouldn't be a deadline. What's more, 55 percent believe that victory in Iraq isn't possible. And 49 percent say the situation in Iraq has gotten worse in the last three months since Bush announced his so-called troop surge. Thirty-seven percent say the situation has stayed about the same, and just 12 percent think it has improved. The funding issue Yet Newhouse, the GOP pollster, says that there are dangers for the Democrats if they decide to go too far on Iraq. "The Democrats risk overplaying the Iraq issue by tying the president's hands on funding. Yes, Americans want Congress to put pressure on the president for a timetable for withdrawing from Iraq, but that doesn't mean they want Congress to sidestep the president and do it on their own." The pessimism about the war has also likely contributed to the country's overall sour mood. According to the poll, only 22 percent believe the country is on the right track. That's the lowest number on this question since October 1992, when Bush father's was running for a second term — and lost. Read more................ msnbc.msn.com