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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (63607)	4/26/2007 12:20:38 AM
From: rnsmth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213177

I don't use net meeting. I use the SAS System, a data management and statistical analysis software system that is pretty complex, Excel, a Windows only survey research package, and some web interfaces to Oracle vertical applications. I do not have problems, rarely have to reboot or quit applications, have had one virus in the past 7 years. That is my history with it. It was different before Windows 2000. Windows 95 and 98 were awful in that regard. Still prefer the Mac I use at home. I sure prefer AAPL to MSFT, in fact, I have never directly invested in MSFT, though I am sure that mutual funds in retirement accounts hold it.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (63607)	4/26/2007 12:22:33 AM
From: aaplfan	Respond to of 213177

I think a lot of it has to do with usage patterns. Back when I was still using Windows heavily, it would be rare when I'd go more than a day or two between reboots. These days, I only have a couple of apps I still need it for and with much less frequency so I have a laptop with Windows that gets rebooted once every week or two. I currently have workloads/workflows on OS X that I would never dream of throwing at Windows... it would have been more pain than I could endure.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (63607)	4/26/2007 2:47:46 AM
From: inaflash	Respond to of 213177

you know, along with your statement and the few I received after I stated that virtually everyone* I know and work with has to reboot windows XP every few days... I don't know what to think.* Well that's a vast improvement over previous versions that needed several reboots a day. Seriously, my personal experience is that XP is far more stable now, and rebooting XP completely is somewhat infrequent, though applications would hang, but can be restarted without an OS reboot. Besides XP, is there another common denominator between everyone you know? Same hardware manufacturer, or certain devices that need updated drivers (or in some cases have buggy drivers that don't have updates). There's also the chance that malware has gotten on your systems that's causing the problem. It takes some knowledge and effort to support XP, which in comparison makes OSX appear carefree (which is mostly is). As far as the three applications, you don't say which video conferencing software you use, but that could be the problem (as well as the audio/video drivers). I've personally had my share of problems with Adobe, especially not closing/clearing memory after it's done (try Foxit Reader foxitsoftware.com as a good/small/fast alternative to the bloated Adobe Reader - I've come across a few rendering incompatabilities, but it appears much more stable than Adobe to me). I'd hate to admit this, but Microsoft Office has been fairly stable in more recent offerings, and hasn't been the source of many problems that I've come across.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (63607)	4/26/2007 3:42:42 PM
From: Doren	Respond to of 213177

This "I've never had a problem" thing happens in the Mac world too. If you go onto dealmac forums and relate that you are having a problem with a Mac, you are almost surely going to get a comment that "I have the same system, but I don't have that problem" as if that proves it's not the machine having the problem. Or as if that person's experience proves that it doesn't happen. I've had problems with Macs, no doubt. But they are still more reliable than PCs no doubt. A lot more in my view. And things tend to "just work" on a Mac whereas you have to make a PC work.