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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (4084)	4/27/2007 1:34:05 PM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25737

Oh gosh no - not huffy at all I promise. Just confused as to your logic. Why do you think my post huffy? but all I asked you to do is to clarify for me specifically what you mean by fear mongering? What I mean by that is that a government who is unwilling or unable to rule by anything other than by scaring people that there is a terrorist behind every bush is not much of a leader. Instead of offering promise and progress - they spread fear. Instead of working together for the good of America, their talking point is ...."if you're not with us you're against us". Instead of tightening our borders and maybe checking shipping containers, they want grandmothers to show them their naked feet and they take away our scotch as you get on a plane. The list is endless, Bush can't speak anymore without telling the American people to be afraid. Are you afraid? I'm not. steve

To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (4084)	4/27/2007 2:24:42 PM
From: pompsander	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25737

I would say that the statement: "we are fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" falls into the fear mongering category. First, as George Tenent says in his book...they have the ability to enter our country through our pourous borders and blow up our shopping malls any day they chose to...regardless of what is going on in Iraq. The argument that Iraq draws them like flies..(?) so they don't choose instead to come to the U.S. is silly. They would go where they choose to go. It is easier to fight in the Middle East than in the U.S., but our being in Iraq has no bearing whatsoever on their ability to fight here....IF they chose to do so. The Heritage Foundation, a very conservative think tank, asked the President to stop using that phrase because it was designed only to create insecurity in the American population and bore no relation to actual facts and abilities of our enemies. Therefore, I would consider continued use of that phrase to be fear mongering.