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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Land Shark who wrote (12009)	4/28/2007 10:52:44 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 36921

"Billions of taxpayers' dollars are spent to control the emissions of this benign gas, in the mistaken belief that they can stop climate change, he said. "The only constant about climate is change," said Patterson." Message 23495678

To: Land Shark who wrote (12009)	4/29/2007 10:50:54 AM
From: Thomas A Watson	Respond to of 36921

But, temperature/CO2 relationships are speculations in effects on global temperatures. What are the relationships speculations of the Maunder Minimum The effects observed were The Maunder Minimum coincided with the middle — and coldest part — of the so-called Little Ice Age, during which Europe and North America, and perhaps much of the rest of the world, were subjected to bitterly cold winters. Whether there is a causal connection between low sunspot activity and cold winters is the subject of ongoing debate The Maunder Minimum is the name given to the period roughly from 1645 to 1715 A.D., when sunspots became exceedingly rare, as noted by solar observers of the time. It is named after the later solar astronomer E.W. Maunder who discovered the dearth of sunspots during that period by studying records from those years. During one 30-year period within the Maunder Minimum, for example, astronomers observed only about 50 sunspots, as opposed to a more typical 40,000–50,000 spots. en.wikipedia.org