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To: RetiredNow who wrote (335787)	4/29/2007 11:10:24 AM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574490

It's true, you can find the documents here: kristof.blogs.nytimes.com re: I remember posting awhile before about how I felt there had been a historic moment when the window was open for a rapprochment with Iran and Bush squandered it with his Axis of Evil speech. Your Republican instincts are correct. No Republican President, including Bush 1, Reagan and Nixon took the neoconservatives seriously; they were all pragmatists. They would have jumped at that opportunity. But it didn't fit in with the Neo ideological agenda. How the world could have been different! re: Why can't we elect good leaders? We have, in general. We've had a succession of pretty good Presidents until Bush. (You can quibble about Carter but I'm not sure anyone would have done a lot better given the circumstances). How Bush got reelected is a mystery.

To: RetiredNow who wrote (335787)	4/29/2007 1:18:58 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 1574490

Obama's outstretched hands TODAY'S EDITORIAL April 29, 2007 In announcing his presidential candidacy on Feb. 10, freshman Barack Obama acknowledged the obvious, while portraying his campaign as the reincarnation of "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington." "I know I haven't spent a lot of time learning the ways of Washington," the Illinois Democrat told his constituents in Springfield. "But I've been there long enough to know that the ways of Washington must change." What are those "ways of Washington"? "As people have looked away in disillusionment and frustration," Mr. Smith -- err, Mr. Obama -- said, "we know what's filled the void -- the cynics, the lobbyists, the special interests, who've turned our government into a game only they can afford to play. They write the checks, and you get stuck with the bill," he said. "They think they own this government. But we're here today to take it back." To that end, Mr. Obama has portrayed himself as the paragon of virtue. Now that he is running for president, Mr. Obama refuses to accept PAC money from the "special interests" and contributions from "federal lobbyists." On his way to Washington during his 2004 campaign, it is worth noting, Mr. Obama accepted more than $1 million from political action committees (PACs), including hundreds of thousands of dollars from Big Labor, and another $750,000 from lobbyists and law firms with big lobbying operations. Mr. Obama also addressed the Democratic National Committee in February. He implored his fellow Democrats to "rise up out of the cynicism that's become so pervasive and ask the people all across America to start believing again." This, it seems, is what his "audacity of hope" is all about. Letting it be known that he would lead the campaign against the cynics and their cynicism, Mr. Obama said, "Over the next two years, that will be my call to you. I can't do it on my own, but together, we can hope. I'm calling on you to hope," Mr. Obama said to thunderous applause. While declining contributions from "federal lobbyists," Mr. Obama has been quick to take the cash of state lobbyists, including those whose clients, such as nuclear power companies, have huge interests before the federal government. However, even that distinction without a difference pales compared to the hypocrisy and cynicism that Mr. Obama has displayed in his attempts to circumvent his own standards. While declining money from federal lobbyists, Mr. Obama's fund-raisers are seeking contributions from the wives of federal lobbyists, including checks written on joint accounts, according to a recent report by Jeanne Cummings in the Politico. After telling an Obama solicitor that his status as a current federal lobbyist precluded him from giving to Mr. Obama, the solicitor told the lobbyist that he was aware of that but "your spouse can contribute, and we want to reach out to your network," Ms. Cummings reported. Mr. Obama needs to take his own advice and "rise up out of the cynicism that's become so pervasive" in his own campaign.

To: RetiredNow who wrote (335787)	4/29/2007 6:20:34 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574490

Following the fallout from Tenet's book on the Sunday morning talking head shows, I'm wondering if Tenet was held over from the Clinton administrations specifically TO blame the "bad intel" the Bushies used to hype the war on. I can see Cheney being that Machiavellian. Maybe Bush felt bad about treating such a loyal toadie that way, and gave him a Medal of Freedom to make up for it? Condi had no answer to why, although other countries offered over $800 million dollars of aid following Katrina, the Bushies used only $40 million. She said they "weren't accustomed to recieving aid". She might as well have just said, "Hey, I'm a Bushie - I'm incomptent too!"

To: RetiredNow who wrote (335787)	4/30/2007 12:54:24 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1574490

Good God. That article, if true, doesn't just make me sick. It means we have Hitler-esque people leading this country. It doesn't surprise me one bit, though. I remember posting awhile before about how I felt there had been a historic moment when the window was open for a rapprochment with Iran and Bush squandered it with his Axis of Evil speech. I knew it in my stomach, but this article, if true, is the smoking gun. These vipers need to be kicked out of our gov't and put in jail for treason. I am glad you finally see what I have been trying to tell you. I need to clarify.....I am no fan of Iran's leaders......esp. their president.......but there are two sides to this estrangement and God knows the Bushies have worked hard to make that estrangement bigger than it already is. And then the koolaid drinkers on this thread wonder why its ABB. Stupid is as stupid does!

To: RetiredNow who wrote (335787)	5/7/2007 10:06:47 AM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574490

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