To: Land Shark who wrote (97355 ) 5/3/2007 1:33:25 PM From: Brumar89 Respond to of 173976 The google cache link works:64.233.167.104 Here's another Woolsey interview:pbs.org ...Abdul Rahman Yasin. Why is he important? Well, he, along with Ramzi Yousef, was one of the two major plotters. Most of the other people who were involved in the World Trade Center bombing were of limited intelligence and sophistication. But Yasin and Yousef clearly were very sophisticated people. They disappeared? Yousef disappeared on a passport in the name of Abdul Basit, a Pakistani passport, first to Pakistan and then to somewhere. He next turns up in the Philippines; his chemicals catch fire in his apartment and the Philippine police get a lead on him. By getting into his computer, we were able to capture him early in 1995 in Pakistan. R. James Woolsey is an attorney and former director of the C.I.A (1993-1995) who labels U.S. policy on Iraq over the past ten years "feckless." He strongly advocates a thorough investigation into Iraq's possible linkage to terrorist attacks against the U.S. and has sought to prove the Iraq connection in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. He was interviewed in mid-october 2001. Who is Ramzi Yousef? Don't know. He may be Ramzi Yousef. He may be Abdul Basit, a Pakistani. One thing does seem reasonably clear to me, which is that he's a sophisticated man. He's a subtle man, and he's the sort of man who might well have a tie to an intelligence organization. I don't think he is some member of a pick-up basketball team who just sort of decided to put some chemicals together and blow something up. I think he's someone's agent, and my best guess would be Iraq. But I can't prove that. Are you discounting that he's part of bin Laden's organization, that he's part of this crusade against Americans and Jews? No, but it's certainly not inconsistent for him to be involved with bin Laden's group in some way and also with an intelligence service, such as Iraq's. There's no sole-source contracting requirement for terrorism. One of the things that makes me the most tired about this public discussion of this issue is that people assume that if someone might have been working with bin Laden, that means he's not also working with an intelligence service. It's entirely possible for Yousef to have been involved with an intelligence service as well, maybe, with bin Laden's organization. ........... Other than Mr. Yasin, who goes to Iraq, and the suspicion that Ramzi Yousef may be connected to a state intelligence operation, what else is there that makes you say that Saddam may be involved in this? Well, it depends what you mean by "this." If "this" is terrorism against the United States, I think it's pretty clear that we have him dead to rights on trying to assassinate former President Bush in the spring of 1993. "Dead to rights?" Yes. President Clinton believed that. That's why he launched the 24 cruise missiles at the empty building in the middle of the night in the summer of 1993, after Saddam tried to assassinate former President Bush and the bomb didn't go off. The CIA looked into the forensics of the bomb and told President Clinton that it was an Iraqi government bomb. He then asked the FBI to double-check and sent an FBI forensics team over; they did the same thing. We both said, "Yes, this is an Iraqi government plot." That was the occasion for the launching of the cruise missiles against the empty [Iraqi security service] building in the middle of the night. Now, I think that anybody who's looked at the 1993 plot to try to assassinate former President Bush believes that it was an Iraqi government plot. I don't think that President Clinton's response was anywhere nearly as forceful as that terrible plan of Saddam's that happily didn't come off. ........... And what about the reports that Mr. Atta was meeting with somebody in Prague? There have been reports that on at least one and perhaps more than one occasion, Mr. Atta, who was probably the central figure in the events of September 11 -- at least of the 19 in this country -- when he was living in Hamburg before he came to the United States, visited Prague, met with an Iraqi intelligence officer -- someone who was declared persona non grata last spring by the Czech government. That would be yet another one or more indicators of cooperation between terrorists attacking the United States and the government of Iraq. So the bill of particulars that you bring to the table in this is potential involvement in the World Trade Center [in 1993], definite involvement in trying to assassinate former President Bush in 1993, meetings of his intelligence operatives with people at least close to or associated with bin Laden, up at least through this recent September 11, and his general commitment to biological weapons, chemical weapons, nuclear weapons, and getting even with the United States. Then there's also the recent reports from two Iraqi defectors about possible training and hijacking aircraft at Salman Pak, just south of Baghdad. ............