Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: jttmab who wrote (229898)	5/6/2007 3:23:54 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"We will bury you." ... Khrushchev That's pretty clear enough and he had the means to do it. Yeah. And we won the Cold War by disarming, destroying all nuclear warheads and ICBMs, and withdrawing from NATO and Europe, right? What puzzles me is why you people insist on giving your perceived enemy "opportunities". Afghanistan was under a Communist rule ... no forced conversions to Islam and then we help get the Taleban in power. Brilliant! Uh... Gee, as far as Afghanistan HAD a gov't it WAS the Taliban. Did you know that? Now there was a civil war. But saying the Taliban wasn't the gov't is like saying Guatemala had no gov't from the 1960's until recently. no forced conversions to Islam Do you have any knowledge AT ALL of Sharia law???? See below. Then we got this dictator, Saddam, not forcing conversions to Islam boxed in and pretty much under control and we decide to make a regime change and give the fundamentalists an opportunity there. Under control? Have you forgotten your buddies the frogs and the Russians? Regime change? I believe BILL CLINTON was the first President to call for that! ( These are your buddies, the Iraq Survey Group: "Clinton sought to pursue an intensified version of the strategy of the first Bush administration. His administration carried out repeated cruise missile strikes and two brief but bloody bombing campaigns, organized provocations by the UN inspectors, maintained the sanctions and the “no-fly” zones, and infiltrated CIA agents among the UN inspectors in order to plan the assassination of Saddam Hussein. Clinton also authorized several abortive coup attempts, as well as overt CIA terrorist actions, including those carried out in the mid-1990s by Ayad Allawi, now the US-appointed interim prime minister. Clinton also signed the Iraq Liberation Act, making “regime change” the official policy of the United States." wsws.org I have no doubt that you want to give them another opportunity by trying a regime change in Iran. Maybe you should be asking SLICK why HE was advocating it! Brilliant! Slick thought so. If you conservatives would just stop helping AQ it would be lot better. If you traitors would stop cheering for them, the country that allows you insanity in speech might get some place. Besides, Bush has lowered the bar. Iraq as a model of democracy is out. "Success" is an acceptable level of violence. Forget about the silly GWOT, it's an acceptable level of violence as the goal. And that's vague enough to have it higher than under Saddam. Success? With the likes of you in the way? You'd rather DIE than allow that! The rest of that is rabid speculation not worthy of reply. ===================================================== Treatment of non-Muslims Under Sharia law non-Muslims may be subjected to Sharia Laws however it codifies the treatment of dhimmis (Arabic) in relation to the Muslim state and in cases of over-lapping jurisdiction. Dhimmis are distinctly second-class citizens in that they cannot serve in public office, cannot testify in court and must follow certain rules meant for living on Muslim land and under Muslim protection (such as paying the jizya). The jizya or tax is enforced on those who broke a treaty or attacked Muslim with no right (as a punishment) or required from those who ask for protection without enrolling in the army. The rules include privilege to practice their own religion, except for public demonstration of non-Muslim religious practices and the right to convert Muslims. The core component of treatment is the jizya, or tax specifically upon non-Muslims. The jizya originates in the Koran [9:29], which says "Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of the truth among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." The "Book" refers to the People of the Book, Jews and Christians, who don't follow their religion righteously, but the jizya was extended to all conquered non-Muslims. The jizya ultimately is less than the Zakah (money given to the poor and needy) and Sadaqah (charity) that Muslims give. In practice, this was rarely the case. en.wikipedia.org =============================================================== Like that? Got more: google.com Pick 'em.