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To: TigerPaw who wrote (336605)5/6/2007 11:17:07 AM
From: d[-_-]b  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1576853
 
As I understand it the form goes to the Feds who run it by their instant check, they are required by law to destroy it if they approve the purchase. The dealer is supposed to keep a copy. Most dealers, however, don't have a gun store, they "deal" from their house or the trunk of their car and nobody checks to see if they are retaining the copies of their form.


That's how it's supposed to work, except no one verifies the record destruction either. The point of all this tracing/tracking is moot anyway as the crime gun is generally a stolen gun. The gun at that point can/has changed hands several times and for years before it becomes a crime gun without any records. Canada has been registering and tracing guns for several years now and has spent millions on their system and it has to date not been used to successfully trace a single gun. Registered gun owners rarely commit crimes so all this record keeping of people not generally responsible for the crime is sort of a silly place to focus attention. The best way to stop/reduce the gun related crime is to never let offenders who use guns out of jail for the rest of their lives. So many of the people committing gun related crimes are repeat offenders - lock them up for good the first time and I suspect the crime rate would drop in half. If you could prove an actual real world use of ownership records to solve crimes that would be something entirely different but the fact is our neighbor to the north is proving exactly the opposite - that the program is a feel good solution with no positive contribution to solving of crimes or the apprehension of criminals.



To: TigerPaw who wrote (336605)5/6/2007 10:05:53 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1576853
 
The form never goes to the Feds, but stays with the gun dealer for a year, whereupon he destroys it?

Not exactly,
As I understand it the form goes to the Feds who run it by their instant check, they are required by law to destroy it if they approve the purchase. The dealer is supposed to keep a copy. Most dealers, however, don't have a gun store, they "deal" from their house or the trunk of their car and nobody checks to see if they are retaining the copies of their form.


With most states, the federal form never gets to the feds. I don't know why?