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To: c.hinton who wrote (230099)	5/8/2007 7:44:26 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Bloody Mary of england was queen elisabeths older catholic half sister..... This I know. They were both daughters of that jolly old guy, King Henry VIII, who had a few bad habits- -like torture, beheading, and hanging. This was soon after Martin Luther started the Protestant Reformation, which tore Europe (including Britain) apart in bloody and brutal religious war. Because of her blood relationship to the previous king (as good as Elizabeth I's) she represented a threat to Elizabeth's rule. She may have actually engaged in conspiracy against her to claim the thrown. At any rate, Elizabeth had her convicted of such and beheaded. Elizabeth was hardly free of bloodstain herself. She got her share. and relatively speaking a tax on religious dessent was a faily light price to pay. Compared to what? Death? Yes. But that is an absurd price anyway. Religious liberty? Any tax for a non-approved religion (and an approved (established) religion is absurd anyway if you have religious liberty) is absurd. religion is a convinient means of controll..... Oh, yes. A study of the history of the relationship between gov't and religion and their knowledge of it, plus some political considerations, led our Founders to try to split gov't from religion. It is perhaps one of the bonds that hold societies together....hence intollerance to any thing that underminds those bonds. Is treason? No. Treason "against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." (U. S. Constitution, Article III, Section 3). Other bonds will work. How about democracy itself? It's worked for us so far. it is rare for a society to be self confident enough to shed those shackles of enforsed religious unity. Relatively rare. While some of the democracies have established churches, all have religious freedom.