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To: FJB who wrote (7455)	5/9/2007 10:46:20 AM
From: Keith Feral	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20106

I guess the elders can say anything they want. Of course they aren't going to blow themselves up or put themselves in harms way. They have a family to raise. I don't support extradition without a good reason. However, all the people of these illegal immigrants should have their relatives put back on the next plane to their home country. Their assets could be seized and the law should be applied to everyone that is rounded up to the fullest. This money should be used to fund their extradition where applicable and reimburse their innocent families. That is how they would be dealt with in Muslim countries. Holding the family accountable as collateral should be contemplated for all types of terrorism. I think the S Korean family owes some kind of restitution to Virginia Tech and the families. Maybe these zany kids would not be so quick to kill if they knew that their first generation families would be deported back to the deserts if they killed innocent people in this country. I think all kinds of immigrant kids are susceptible to becoming disillusioned psychopaths like the S Korea kid or the Pakistani kids from Leeds. They stand out as minorities and are subject to racism and alienation. However, that doesn't give them a right to become jihadi bombers or shooters just because they don't fit in. The only thing that may dissuade them may be loss of citizenship for their families. Maybe we should be sending back all of the families of the 6 Muslims planning to attack Ft. Dix. Clearly, we have to find some leverage against the terrorists that are willing to commit suicide. If they knew there family would be deported, that might make things a little different. Who knows what would happen to their families back in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia or Jordan. More than likely, they would face imprisonment for one reason or another. We need to use family passports as leverage against kids with no regards for their own lives. However, if they knew they would be putting their own mother in front of a execution tribunal back in an Islamic country, they might think twice. In fact, maybe the law of Sharia should be revised to condemn the families of any terrorist. If we worked out a bilateral deal with all of our allies, we could let them imprison or execute the families depending on the guilt decided by a Islamic court. How many kids want to die and have their mother swing from the gallows? It wouldn't work in this country, but once the deportation process goes into effect, they would be at the mercy of their own religious laws.

To: FJB who wrote (7455)	5/9/2007 5:43:31 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Respond to of 20106

Milan hospital replaces crucifix with (statue of) Mary to please Muslims Deutche Presse ^ \| May 9, 2007 news.monstersandcritics.com Milan - Milan's leading obstetric hospital was replacing its crucifixes with images of the Virgin Mary to avoid offending a growing number of Muslim patients, reports said Wednesday. 'Our wards have become multiethnic. We want to respect all religions and avoid any form of discrimination. That is why we have decided to replace the crucifix with the image of the Madonna, which is also appreciated by Muslim women,' daily La Repubblica quoted Mangiagalli's medical director, Basilio Tiso, as saying Wednesday. Some 7,000 women give birth at the Mangiagalli each year. Of these, about 30 per cent are foreign immigrants, many of whom are not Catholic. The head of Milan's Viale Jenner Islamic centre, Abdelhamid Shaari, welcomed the move, saying Mary was a figure that was also revered by Muslims. 'This is certainly a sign of respect for our religion that we greatly appreciate. But a white wall would have been even better. Italy is a secular state and children are angels in any religion,' Shaari told La Repubblica. The representation of the cross on which Jesus died has become the subject of a heated debate in Italy in recent years as Muslim groups and non-Christians seek its removal from the walls of public buildings. Although church and state are officially separated in Italy, a 1923 regulation issued during Benito Mussolini's Fascist rule and never repealed states that a symbol of the crucifix should hang in every classroom and courtroom in the country. Officials at the Mangiagalli hospital plan to replace all crucifixes within the next few months. However, patients will still be able to have a crucifix hanging in their room if they ask for one.