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To: Bill who wrote (230455)	5/9/2007 5:30:29 PM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

"...for even the blind squirrel finds the occasional acorn." Geode is neither blind, nor a squirrel and he has gotten two things right in his 7 years on SI. One i forget the other is the spit shine he gives to Krugs shoes. (g)

To: Bill who wrote (230455)	5/9/2007 5:33:33 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 281500

I will vouch for you on that claim.

To: Bill who wrote (230455)	5/9/2007 5:37:35 PM
From: Don Hurst	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>>" Most people who oppose Bush on these threads have been opposing him since long before the Iraq war. They opposed his first election, they opposed his appointees, they opposed his tax cuts, they opposed his war in Afghanistan, indeed they opposed the very essence of Bush. "<< Yup, and we were right but your lunch just goes on and on and on and on...

To: Bill who wrote (230455)	5/9/2007 5:58:39 PM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Bill you are such a liar and show an amazingly lousy memory. Most people, after 911, were for Bush going into Afghanistan TO LOOK FOR AND CAPTURE OSAMA. Notice that your God, Dubya, failed to do this in half a decade with essentially unlimited support, military power and money. Gee. Why do you think that is Bill? Eh? Bill, now that you've been found out to be both wrong and foolish you are trying, like MichaelNutCase, to rewrite history. Be a man, or at least a big mouse and take responsibility for being so wrong. People were opposed to Bush because they saw in him a deserter, a frat boy with a mean and nasty personality, a cokehead and a drunk. Aside from that he had little experience except as a weak Governor and a Daddy's boy. That he lied through his teeth to get elected AND demolished the idea of true elections in the USA only shows that even in the midst of Pax Clintonia, people knew what kind of man he was. Iraq, Katrina, Medicare Part D, Enron, Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, gas prices, tax cuts for the ultrawealthy, domestic wiretapping, election fraud, ...these are all just symptoms of the kind of person Bush is. They are the Picture of Dorian Gray writ large.

To: Bill who wrote (230455)	5/10/2007 3:21:01 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Bill, re: "So even though my opinion of what ought to be done now in Iraq may be similar in substance to that of many of the Bush bashers, I am comfortable that my view is based on information and not venom. As for the bashers, they were bound to get one right, for even the blind squirrel finds the occasional acorn. Bill, if you're honest with yourself you'll have to admit that more than 90% of the "Bush Bashing" was directly or indirectly generated by opposition to what many felt was the fatally flawed decision to preemtively attack Iraq and to continue the occupation of Iraq. In that sense most of us were not "blind squirrels" but rather reasoned thinkers who saw reality more clearly than those who were cheer leading the war. In fact, many of your earlier posts that accused those of us on the other side of "Bush Bashing" were based on our articulation of the position that you now share with us, i.e., the continuing war in Iraq will not be "won" and it's in America's best interest to declare victory and get out. Speaking for myself, I detest what Bush represents. He's an incompetent man empowered far beyond his abilities. He's stubborn and full of false pride fostered by his belief in magical thinking (the power of optimism fueled by his belief that God is working through him) and he's a black and white thinker in a world that's filled with shades of gray. And because of him we've killed a lot of people and a lot of our young men and women have died. Because of him we're looking at a generation to dig ourselves out of this hole and rise to the same level of power, prosperity, prestige and hope that we enjoyed a few short years ago, if that's even possible now. If my wholehearted rejection of that policy and the man who is in charge of implementing that policy makes me a "Bush Basher" then my only question is why aren't the rest of Americans Bush Bashers? Ed