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To: elmatador who wrote (18205)	5/13/2007 7:55:36 AM
From: Slagle	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 220217

Elmat, We have too many maids here already, besides, having a maid or a houseboy is just so "third world". The flood of illegals has retarded the development of automation in many fields, especially agriculture. The social costs of all these immigrants, both direct and indirect, far outweigh any benefit they provide. We don't need them. But we have lots of treason here, and very many traitors in high places, so for now anyway, the immigrant flood continues. Slagle

To: elmatador who wrote (18205)	5/14/2007 5:18:28 AM
From: 8bits	Respond to of 220217

Rent to illegal immigrants and be fined up to $500. This is aganist human rights! I have a great deal of sympathy for the people crossing the border.. (basically due to very corrupt regimes who are thoroughly disinterested in assisting their poor residents aside from directing them to El Norte) However the people who benefit are generally rather wealthy people on both sides of the border. Years ago civils rights leaders were against illegal immigration because they correctly realized that it led to exploitation of those who were here "without papers" César Chávez and Illegal Immigration In 1969, Chávez and members of the UFW marched through the Imperial and Coachella Valleys to the border of Mexico to protest growers' use of undocumented immigrants as strikebreakers. Joining him on the march were both Reverend Ralph Abernathy and U.S. Senator Walter Mondale. In its early years, Chávez and the UFW went so far as to report undocumented workers who served as temporary replacement workers as well as those who refused to unionize to the Immigration and Naturalization Service. In 1973, the United Farm Workers set up a "wet line" to prevent Mexican immigrants from entering the United States. During one such event in which Chávez was not involved, some UFW members under reform the guidance of Chávez cousin Manuel physically attacked the strikebreakers, after attempts to peacefully convince the undocumented workers not to cross failed." en.wikipedia.org The new paradigm is that any protest of illegal immigration (and I wonder how that would apply to me since I have Russian and Mexican relatives and there is no shortage of undocumented folks from either group..) is somehow racist. Even though Mexico strongly resists illegal immigration also. (See links below...) The richest man in the world is Bill Gates... take a wild guess who is the second richest man.. it used to be Warren Buffet.. not any more...it's Carlos Slim of Mexico: latinola.com And how does it stack up against the rest of the world and how they treat people who have entered their country in violation of it's laws...? And of course this is being directed against the landlords not the immigrants.. quite often the type of people who rent to illegal aliens are frequently exploiting them... cramming people into housing well beyond capacity and safety regulations. As I have debated with friends.. piecemeal laws like this are because the feds have taken basically no action of the illegal alien (or undocumented worker issue..) Oh by the way... I'll remind you... it was Brazil where that Swiss family was forced off their property. (Which they bought legally.. and also they were living in Brazil legally...) As for against human rights.. let's look at Mexico's record... elsiglodetorreon.com.mx " The Central Americans included 26 children and a 15-year old girl who was 5 months pregnant. Nationally speaking, 161 were from El Salvador and 8 from Guatemala, both countries poorer than Mexico. Apparently the people weren’t keen to vacate the trailer. In order to get them out, Mexican police gassed the trailer, and the Central Americans got out." That's Mexico not the US. Such behavior is routine on the Southern border of Mexico. Also you probably don't know this but written into the Mexican constitution is the right for the President of Mexico to have any immigrant (that would include people legally residing there, even people who have become Mexican citizens..) removed. If people have not entered a country legally (and the US is much more benign than most countries in the world...) why is it surprising that people will be restricted from certain activities...? Japan and Korea recently expelled a number of Americans and Canadians who were teaching English, but apparently without all the proper documents for residency as it were... and international outcry... none of course. Thailand: iht.com "HUAY NAM KHAO, Thailand Thousands of ethnic Hmong refugees expelled from their villages under a Thai government plan have seen their first casualty: a baby girl who died after she and her parents spent a shelterless day and night in the rain." Brunei: corpun.com "Six immigration offenders await whipping" "Mexican immigration law prohibits foreigners from engaging in political activity. U.S. citizens have been detained, expelled or deported for violating their tourist visa status. Tourists should avoid demonstrations and other activities that may be deemed political by Mexican authorities. In 1998 and 1999, U.S. citizens and other foreigners were detained in Chiapas and expelled from Mexico for allegedly violating their visa status or interfering in Mexican internal politics." (In this case.... it was US citizens demonstrating for the rights of people in Chiapas..) pueblo.gsa.gov US citizens forced out of Mexico (for land they had legally purchased and in a state they living in leaglly...)These were former peace corp workers who were setting up eco tours. www2.eluniversal.com.mx peacecorpsonline.org " From mid-December 2002 to mid-February 2003, the Zapatista peasant mob blockaded the entrance to Rancho Esmeralda. They threw rocks. They disconnected water and power lines. They made it clear in no uncertain terms they wanted Glenn and Ellen to abandon their property. The land-grabbers also threatened the ranch’s Mexican employees. They detained employee Ernesto Cruz. Like the activists themselves, Cruz is a Tzeltal Indian. But he’s an unPC Indian, not a Zapatista activist. So he was detained for 6 hours, and according to Cruz, beaten. After two months of this treatment, Glenn and Ellen abandoned their ranch. At the entrance to Rancho Esmeralda, the Zapatistas put up a picture of a menacing machete-wielding personage, his head covered in a ski-mask, with the slogan “Land cannot be bought or sold because it’s our patrimony and we will defend it.” When the end finally came, it was almost anti-climactic. On the morning of February 28th, 150 machete-wielding Zapatistas entered the ranch, evicted the two remaining employees and took possession at last. The police drew near to the ranch, but did nothing - because they had received no orders to do anything!" jornada.unam.mx jornada.unam.mx "the Mexican government mistreats 'indocumentados' that cross its territory, it keeps them in jails, in overcrowded conditions, many times without food, without medical attention and overall, violating their human rights." (El ombudsman nacional asegura que en México el tema migratorio "es una asignatura pendiente, porque el gobierno mexicano maltrata a los indocumentados que cruzan el territorio, los retiene en cárceles, en hacinamiento, sin alimentos muchas veces, sin atención médica y, sobre todo, se violan sus derechos humanos"