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To: Patrick Slevin who wrote (3454)5/16/2007 9:37:01 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 20435
 
Show me the one that says 70K.</i?
I don't have advanced search. It may not be on this thread. There was a time when NOBODY, including thre company, had a solid price. And it wasn't so long ago.

Almost every car I know of includes a HARDTOP ROOF as standard

You were never a car guy were you?

Right. You don't need to be one, though, to spot the numerous safety hazards of convertibles. Like if the thing rolls over, you'd like a slight chance of survival without major injury. Cars AREN'T just about how many HP you can pull out of that junk of metal uder the hood.

Oh. Does the Tesla come with a hood? or is that optional too? :-)

I owned a 1957 Thunderbird up until a few years back.
Hmmm. I tthink life gave an IQ test there. You may may have failed. :-(

They all came with a soft top, the hardtop was an option.
That's why you don't buy them.

It's a lot more common than you realize. Check Hemmings.com; It's an antique car website. Low production cars don't supply a lot of things that off the shelf buyers take for granted.
By definition, most of the cars sold are large production models. And these days they mostly include hard tops.

The cost to drive per mile in terms of fuel must be roughly 13% of the cost of a 40 mpg gasoline engine.
Calcs? Test results? Back that up!

Jesus Laz, you act like you know what you are talking about. With the remark about hardtops I started to doubt.

Let's see, I'm not sure where we'll come out here.
Let's talk 65 mph, a common highway speed limit. Tesla says the car will do 130 mph, but unless you want to be cop bait, I don't see the use of that. You gonna put your 3-year-old in the other seat and do 130?
But: 65 mph = 95 1/3 fps = 29.058 m/s
Now were into units we can do something with.
Ignoring rolling friction, air resistance, and electric` losses in the battery, wiring, and motor of the car and electricity used for purposes other than moving the car (such as instruments, radio, etc.), and chemical losses in the battery,
the energy in the car at 65 mph is given by
P = .5*m*v^2
Tesla says the car weighs 2960 lbs (not sure I believe that, but, having no better figure, I'll have to use theirs).
2960 lbs = 1343.8 kg
so
E = 57722.8 joules energy in the car at 65 mph

That's straightforward physics. Now life gets tougher and iffier.

(To be continued. Boy, are you gonna be sorry you started this. It gets worse. But we shall finish. I got some PMs that need attention.)

So you figure it out. What does a kilowatt hour cost, and translate that into miles driven. then compare it to miles driven per gallon of gasoline.

Why don't you show me that you have some comprehension of allocation of costs.

Back that up indeed. I see you throwing a lot of arrows but evidently you have the math skills of a Sesame Street kid.

I've had enough of this. You brought a knife to a gunfight.

I'll be back, as the guvernator said. You brought a nail clipper.



To: Patrick Slevin who wrote (3454)5/22/2007 6:31:19 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20435
 
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