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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (4814)	5/17/2007 6:16:16 PM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25737

When looking at Ron Paul, I see a guy committed to certain ideals and not afraid to espouse them regardless of conventional thinking. It's laudable, especially if one agrees with most of the positions (which I do). But what we saw in the debate during that exchange was Rudy Giuliani showing one of his major qualities: leadership. This is a trait Ron Paul lacks. Rudy's leadership is the reason libertarians are doing pretzel dances around Paul's words this week. Now if we could just get Rudy to commit to the right 80% of Ron Paul's message, we'd have the ideal candidate. -g-

To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (4814)	5/17/2007 7:11:27 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25737

"so what would Paul have done about 9/11?" Isn't the important question what we do starting today, and moving forward? (No matter how good the 'hindsight', still can't go back in time and change anything....) "It seems as if he would have done nothing but shrug his shoulders and say," I have no idea what would possibly give you an idea like that. He isn't, (& to my knowledge, never has been), opposed to the clear logic of defending yourself when attacked. :-) (If attacked, say by a 'non-state actor' like a terrorist group, you hit back HARD at the terrorist group, and at any state that is giving them support. Don't see where that perfectly sensible and oft effective after-the-fact response is in any way in conflict with a parallel track goal like... trying to be more clever and effective in achieving strategic aims through national policies....)