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To: Bill who wrote (6558)	5/21/2007 4:47:12 PM
From: c.hinton	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

Of corse i would not give them unfettered rights....nobody should have that. ps "On January 17, 2007, Attorney General Gonzales asserted in Senate testimony that while habeas corpus is "one of our most cherished rights," the United States Constitution does not expressly guarantee habeas rights to United States residents or citizens. As such, the law could be extended to US citizens and held if left unchecked.[1] To date, there have been a number of confirmed cases in which non-American civilians have been incorrectly classified as enemy combatants. [2]" en.wikipedia.org pss the rest of the article is a good read.....

To: Bill who wrote (6558)	5/29/2007 1:56:02 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

With the news release this past couple of days about the torture chambers in Iraq, I am confident that we will see a dramatic turn of empathy away from the Al-Qaeda backed Sunni Insurgencies in Iraq. This will mark the final turning of the tide toward support of a national government in Iraq and away from the various rival insurgent groups. It will do so far more definitively than any combat victories, elections, improvements in infrastructure, or nefarious events. The best way for America to prove me wrong would be to begin legally institutionalizing the use of torture within our Military. Although not always efficient, our cause has been honorable. There is nothing honorable about torture and it is never justified by any incidental cause, it is in fact abhorrent to all of humanity across time and circumstance; and is, therefore, condemnable in all occurrences. How any sentient and moral creature could imagine it could ever be otherwise is beyond me.