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To: epicure who wrote (231815)	5/21/2007 5:56:42 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Their suppression is not unmatched. When you contemplate the suppression of women in all the various ways the West has seen fit to experiment with, I can see how you could say the suppression might be equal to what the West came up with in it's excesses, but it's hardly unmatched. Hardly. The few Islamic visitors to the Western world four or five centuries ago (usually diplomats), who viewed conditions that we would regard as very suppressive of women, were astounded at the relative freedom and honor of women in Western society, in places like Holland or Venice. Women were actually allowed into public places unveiled, where they could talk to men who weren't their husbands, and they were treated with gallantry and respect! Who ever heard of such a thing?! No, nobody in the West has treated women the way the Islamic world did and does. The last Western power to shut women in harems and forbid them from all public life was Greece/Byzantium, and even they were not consistent about it.