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To: Elroy who wrote (231851)	5/22/2007 2:00:18 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Well then today it sure seems that since Lebanon doesn't want them that they should be relocated to the West Bank, wouldn't you say? They are the product of the Israel-Pal conflict, not a Lebanese conflict. They are the product of the Israeli-Arab conflict of 1948, which involved Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Transjordan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. And Israel and the local Arabs, of course. During the course of 1947 - 1951 over a million people moved/ became refugees - about 600,000 - 700,000 Arabs of Palestine (the term "Palestinian" at the time referred to the Zionists) and about 700,000 - 800,000 Jews of the Arab lands. The Brits tried to negotiate a transfer of populations, which had been done in the same period on a much larger scale in India and Pakistan. But the Arabs wouldn't recgonize Israel. So they just turfed their own Jews out, and refused to take the Palestinian refugees. Instead they got the UN to invent a special new division for them, UNWRA, whose mission was not to resettle them, but to feed and house them forever. The other refugee populations of the world are seen to by the UN High Commission on Refugees, whose mission is to repatriate or resettle, so they don't get the same treatment.

To: Elroy who wrote (231851)	5/22/2007 10:06:24 AM
From: bentway	Respond to of 281500

"Well then today it sure seems that since Lebanon doesn't want them that they should be relocated to the West Bank, wouldn't you say? They are the product of the Israel-Pal conflict, not a Lebanese conflict." Can't have that Elroy! Bad for the demographic, you know.. mideastweb.org "Israel views the 1948 refugees as hostile persons sympathetic with a belligerent aggressor, and passed a law forbidding their return, and assigning all their land holdings to a custodian of absentee property. Jordan did the same regarding Jewish land conquered in 1948. Palestinians insist on the right of the refugees to return to their homes in Israel. Palestinian Arabs and Israeli Jews tell two very different stories about the events of 1948. The Israeli version is that the Palestinians attacked the Jews and then fled voluntarily because they believed Arab armies would soon liberate Palestine. The Palestinian version is that they were innocently minding their own business, when suddenly the Zionists attacked them and evicted them by force, as part of a preconceived plan of ethnic cleansing. Palestinians point out that Zionists carried out a number of massacres and terrorist operations, notably in Deir Yassin, where Irgun and Lehi forces killed about 110 villagers, and that the Haganah had formulated Plan D, which, the Palestinian partisans claim, was a plan for expulsion of the Arabs from Palestine. However, while Plan D called for expulsion of Arabs from hostile villages and towns in strategic locations, it did not deal with non-belligerents or with villages or towns that were not in strategic locations. They also point out that that Deir Yassin massacre was carried out by dissident Irgun and Lehi groups, and condemned by the Jewish agency. However, none of the participants were ever punished, and the Haganah and IDF later carried out evictions and massacres on their own. "