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To: Kevin Rose who wrote (6644)	5/22/2007 10:45:22 PM
From: Augustus Gloop	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

<<So, why not extend it to criminals? Pedophiles would be at the top of the list, along with child murderers and, maybe, all murderers. Drug runners, organized crime, pushers, ...>> Because we've already determined them guilty and when they get placed in prison the event is over. There's no benefit to torturing criminals. But terrorists? If it works to get intel then do what you have to do but don't get caught because we can't support it as a culture

To: Kevin Rose who wrote (6644)	5/23/2007 10:41:10 AM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

There is a certain kind of nobility a soldier may (or may not) possess regardless of which cause or side of an issue they may be defending. There is nothing honorable about torture and it is never justified by any incidental cause, it is in fact abhorrent to all of humanity across time and circumstance; and is, therefore, condemnable in all occurrences. I have long held that we have responsibility for the well being of other creatures, including other human creatures. That does not place blame or shame on us, however, when our fellows are conducting themselves in a regrettable manner. Responsibility represents ownership over my own actions and intentions, not over the consequences of other people's actions and misdeeds. I may choose in a dire circumstance, unique to me and for time and place, to commit an act that I would condemn in any other circumstance. I would be the first to admit, even were I the subject of judgement that such things can never be legally institutionalized, to do so would lessen the nobility of the civilized world; which would leave me only to plead my case out of circumstance and on the mercy of a just court.