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To: koan who wrote (40898)	5/23/2007 4:54:59 PM
From: E. Charters	Respond to of 78421

I would suggest glucosamine, vitamin D3 and MSM as well. MSM for the pain, and glucosamine and D3 for the cartilages. Yucca I have tried and it is excellent for the cartilages, although you should go off it from time to time. It is an Apache remedy. They Apache were foot runners and often got sore joints. This helped apparently. Micheal T. Murray Naturopath: Proteolytic enzymes (or proteases) refer to the various enzymes that digest (break down into smaller units) protein. These enzymes include the pancreatic proteases chymotrypsin and trypsin, bromelain (pineapple enzyme), papain (papaya enzyme), fungal proteases, and Serratia peptidase (the "silk worm" enzyme). Are proteolytic enzymes actually absorbed? Yes. One of the outdated arguments against the effectiveness of orally administered proteolytic enzymes was that they either got digested or they were too large to be absorbed. Absorption studies with the various proteolytic enzymes have confirmed that they are absorbed intact. In fact, they appear to be actively transported across the gut wall. Since stomach acid can destroy proteolytic enzymes, the best formulas are “enteric coated” – meaning that the pills have a coating around them to prevent the pill from being broken down in the stomach. An enteric-coated pill passes into the small intestine, where due to the pH change it will break down there. Can taking proteolytic enzymes actually improve digestion? Yes, in fact, using enzyme preparations to support proper digestive function is used in conventional medicine in cases of pancreatic insufficiency and cystic fibrosis (a rare inherited disorder). Pancreatic insufficiency is characterized by impaired digestion, malabsorption, nutrient deficiencies, and abdominal discomfort. Do the proteolytic enzymes digest blood proteins? NO! There are special factors in the blood that block the enzymes so that they do not digest blood proteins. How do the proteolytic enzymes help autoimmune conditions like rheumatoid arthritis? The benefits in some inflammatory conditions appears to be related to helping the body breakdown immune complexes formed between antibodies produced by the immune system and the compounds they bind to (antigens). Conditions associated with high levels of immune complexes in the blood are often referred to as "autoimmune diseases" and include such diseases as rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, scleroderma, and multiple sclerosis. Higher levels of circulating immune complexes are also seen in ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease, and AIDS.4-6

To: koan who wrote (40898)	5/23/2007 5:18:02 PM
From: LoneClone	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 78421

OT: What really turned things around for me was an 11-day fast. Fasts are pretty drastic, so I was fortunate to have a practising nurse who was also my yoga instructor and trained in Ayurveda to supervise it. After two days there was no pain and after three days no inflammation, and for many months afterwards I was able to stop taking medications and have never had to take them again to the same level. The best thing I ever tasted was the first food I ate after 11 days. It was the water rice had been boiled in, diluted 64 times with pure water. Delicious! One other thing a fast allows is that you can add foods back in one at a time and see the effect, as many arthritics have food triggers. I discovered that I have to watch how much tomato I eat at one sitting, although the rest of the nightshade family -- tomatoes, eggplants, peppers, and potatoes -- which troubles many arthritics seem to be OK for me. I also cut milk products except for cheese and yoghurt out entirely. General dietary principles: Avoid milk products, coffee, be careful of nightshade family Good foods include Omega 3-rich stuff like pulses and cold water fish. I have a form of arthritis called ankylosing spondylitis, related to lupus and Krone's disease. It has attacked most of the joints in my body, plus some spots you might not expect like my eyes and stomach. LC