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To: Gib Bogle who wrote (40943)	5/23/2007 9:59:50 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 78418

We lose three species an hour from the planet ... just read that in today's Vancouver Sun, didn't read the piece so don't know which species they are this hour ... but, no worries mate, it's not likely to be our turn coming up

To: Gib Bogle who wrote (40943)	5/23/2007 10:55:01 PM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 78418

<That is demonstrably wrong. We _are_ polluting the world and destroying habitats, and have been doing so for a long time,> That is "demonstratably wrong' for a chosen time period: ibiblio.org Presumably your chosen time period. However higher vertibrates are, by all accounts, have the most to lose by environmental degragation... plants and lower animimals will all thrive again given something like air quality bad enough to kill off a Billion or so people. < our numbers continue to increase. Look at China as a graphic example.> Bad example... they have actually done something about it, drawing the ire of the holy rollers: "China's future population growth is a product of past growth. The average number of children per woman has been below the replacement level of 2.1 since the mid-1980s. Most recent estimates from the State Statistical Bureau assume that current fertility on a national average is at 1.85 children per woman. In cities, the fertility was estimated at 1.43, in towns at 1.58, and in rural counties at 2.00 children per woman (see Table 3). Whatever population growth we see in the future will be caused not by high fertility, but by the "population momentum" of China's young age structure. What will come is a legacy of the 1950s and 1960s, when China's fertility was quite high and mortality had already declined. Consequently, China now has a large number of young adults of reproductive age. Their number will actually increase until 2015 (see Figure 2). This growing number of potential parents is the reason the number of births will remain high even if fertility remains at the current low level." To sum up... IMHO all the hoopla about "ruining the planet" is probably only a concern if you're worried about the human race. The planet will probably do "OK" and maybe something better will evolve. :) DAK