To: sea_biscuit who wrote (80559 ) 5/24/2007 2:56:14 PM From: TimF Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284 Why should a guerrilla force have to hold land in order to win? Their aim is to inflict a thousand cuts on the enemy and make it not feasible for the invaders to stay there. If their fighting an invader. Many guerillas are not. If you define invader by the definition below then the guerillas in both Vietnam and Iraq were not. (although its true that isn't the only definition) invade One entry found for invade. Main Entry: in·vade Pronunciation: in-'vAd Function: transitive verb Inflected Form(s): in·vad·ed; in·vad·ing Etymology: Middle English, from Latin invadere, from in- + vadere to go -- more at WADE 1 : to enter for conquest or plunderm-w.com --- The guerillas in Vietnam then, and in Iraq now, wanted/want to win control of the country. Their side doesn't win just by getting the Americans out. The Communists wanted to take over South Vietnam. They did so by becoming the invaders and defeating the ARVN in a conventional conflict. The Baathists in Iraq want to restore a Baathist Sunni dictatorship. They want to be in control. If we left tomorrow, that would only be a step in the path of what they want. They would still have to defeat the Iraqi government. To do that they would have to go beyond just guerrilla tactics. That same applies to the Islamo-fascists in Iraq. Relying purely on guerrilla tactics, only allows them to cause damage and destruction, while being difficult to totally defeat. But the destruction they spread is not just for the purpose of spreading destruction. It has a purpose. And that purpose is not limited to getting the US out of Iraq. They want us out, largely because we frustrate their larger purposes. Guerrilla war might allow them to survive against our fire power, and might even cause us to leave in frustration, but if we do leave they will have to go beyond it in order to win the war. We are not their only enemies.