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To: tejek who wrote (338830)	6/12/2007 8:59:54 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575174

Because a state performs more functions does not necessarily mean there is a loss of freedoms for the individual. If the state is performing a function it has to be paid for. The additional resources, taken from the realm of individual decision making, and handed over to the government to decide what will be done with them, is directly a reduction in freedom. Beyond that the French government also regulates commerce to a very great degree, which is also a reduction in freedom. Unfortunately the US has been heading in that direction as well. As for France being at the center on a global scale, that depends on how exactly you set up the scale. Its a very subjective process. Certainly France is close enough to the center to not make it unreasonable to place it at the center, but your chart made it completely cover the center. If gives France some sort of special status it doesn't really deserve. "Laissez-faire is the opposite of totalitarianism in more ways than it is at the middle between leftist totalitarianism and "Corporatism", so it should be more like what you describe, but that's not the way the chart is actually drawn up. Look at the third chart. The green area in the chart says "laissez-faire capitalism". Clinton bumps up against its boundary, barely outside of it. Greenpeace is close to it than Reagan. And Hitler is close to it than Bush. That's ridiculous." Laissez-faire has to do with economics and the marketplace.......and little to do with the political aspects of the gov't. Government intervening in the economy is a political act. It doesn't just have to do with, it IS part of "the political aspects of the government". But even if your statement was true (and its false) it wouldn't be relevant to my comment which you quoted. The idea that Clinton border on "laissez-faire" is wrong, and the ideas that Greenpeace is closer to it than Reagan, and Hitler closer to it than Bush", is complete nonsense. But that's what the charts you use say. Stop fooling yourself.......people aren't making this stuff up to irritate you. Of course their not. And I never said that they where. The fact that they are wrong, has nothing to do with any desire to irritate men. And in terms of the points I was addressing, that Bush is closer to Mugabe, or Saddam, then he is to the center (including the center defined by you, with France as the center), is not just wrong its patent nonsense.