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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: miraje who wrote (13104)5/29/2007 3:33:43 PM
From: neolib  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36917
 
I have indeed already looked at some of her "impressive accomplishments", which led me to give you the challenge I did.

So, please go to her site, pick just one claim that she maintains to have "debunked", and the two of us can take a little jaunt through science to see how she measures up. I'm giving you the courtesy of picking the subject, because some of her science is significantly worse than others, so you pick the best shot. I'd be more inclined to pick the worse caricature.

On my side, I promise to drop all abusive comments, both towards you and her. I will treat the subject fairly, but I will not be condescending. She was taken seriously by the adult world, and she must be judged in the same world. You and a number of others here seem to think that she could actually play in that world, so I'm extending that courtesy to her, and judging her by that standard.

What I will need from you is some honesty in looking at data and the science. We might well end up going to the original sources, i.e. scientific articles, as well as rebuttals. We will need to clearly summarize things at each step and look at the strengths and weakness before proceeding to the next step. This will no doubt lead to a few tangents that get explored. It will take a bit of time. I have no problem in giving credit where credit is due, so if I find that the young lady has in fact some valid points, I will happily acknowledge that. On the other hand, if I find what I have briefly seen on her site, I will not gloss over her shortcomings.

I actually am quite interested in finding ANY reasonable argument against global warming. So far, I have found none that pass any level of detailed examination.



To: miraje who wrote (13104)5/29/2007 3:52:44 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 36917
 
For some reason, probably not known to greenhouse theorists and their scientists, greenhouse gases did not play a role in late 20th century warming. It was simply a matter of solar variation being clouded by El Ninos and La Ninas

LOL. F

Good effort, tho.