To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (99305 ) 5/30/2007 6:54:14 PM From: PartyTime Respond to of 173976 There's an old line that goes something like this: "We have met the enemy ... and it is us!" I forget who said this, or when or why. But given what's happened in Iraq these words ring true today. Pre-war, perhaps some of us on SI had an advantageous viewpoint over others since many of us were searching for information from many different SI threads and from various internet news sources wide and far--as to whether America should invade Iraq or not. It was from this influence the DON'T START THE WAR THREAD began, and Bush's "Shock and Awe" spawned the Stop the War thread. But this thread here is different. It exists only due to the intensive GOPwinger misinformation campaign on so many different and important subjects of government, and the media's willingness to carry that GOPwinger ball regardless of the facts involved. But the fact that we're nearing the 100,000 post mark, since this thread's January 2004 inception, is telling us there must be some truth as to how it became entitled. In my simple view, the area of the world where most of America's military attention should have been devoted, post-9/11, is the Afghani-Pakistani region, coupled with Bush continuing Clinton's Israel v. Palestine policy attempts. I further think the most powerful tool America had at its disposal post-9/11 was and is education. Instead, due to the Bush-Cheney policies, most of the world considers America as suspect and guilty. I guess the moral to the story is that it's difficult, if not impossible, for the guilty to educate people. Red or blue, we need to turn it all around ... and sooner, rather than later. As an interest, below are the first 40 posts of this thread:Subject 54632