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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: JBTFD who wrote (81180)	5/31/2007 7:34:07 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93284

"In my opinion, it is a disingenuous to pretend that a double standard has to be declared in order to be in effect. It is you who declared a double standard. Your mistake. "It is also disingenuous to pretend that all countries have equal rights despite their disparities in size, wealth, or military might. Equal rights in this case have nothing to do with size, wealth, or military might. Your mistake, or pretence if you prefer. "The fact is that any wealthy nation has more rights because it has the wealth to legally enforce their rights." Having differing abilities to accomplish goals has nothing to do with the right to decide whether or not to pursue those goals. Your mistake. "What value do rights have that one does not have the wealth or military might to enforce? " Rights are not associated with enforcement of will over others or goal achievement in general. Your mistake. "Those rights become totally ostensible and of little or no value." You apparently do not understand the nature of rights and are claiming materialistic entitlements as rights. Your mistake.

To: JBTFD who wrote (81180)	5/31/2007 8:28:37 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93284

It is also disingenuous to pretend that all countries have equal rights despite their disparities in size, wealth, or military might. I have an equal right to try to be heavy-weight boxing champion of the world. The fact that I don't have the size, skill, strength, and speed to have a chance, doesn't mean my rights are less. That specific right may indeed be of little or no value to me, but its still real. It is like matching a 100 pound guy with a 300 pound guy in a fight and pretending that they are equal. Not at all. Equal rights does not imply equal outcomes. Moving away from combat, both the New York Times, and a congenitally retarded alcoholic, have the right to freedom of speech and a free press. But that doesn't mean they have the same influence, or that an actual printing press has to be handed to the alcoholic.