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To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (25548)6/3/2007 7:39:03 PM
From: sea_urchin  Respond to of 81455
 
Crimson > The voices condemning the Jewish establishment’s attempt to stifle criticism of Israel as “anti-Semitism” represent a positive sign—one which, hopefully, will lead to free and open debate of Middle East policy. Such a debate has been needed for too long.

A positive sign, yes, but not because it will lead to free and open debate. I say a positive sign because some Jews are waking up to see what it means to be Jewish. Indeed, Jewish paranoia, which comes with the turf, is not a subject for reason or discussion -- non-Jews simply hate Jews, and that's all it is -- a goy is a goy, and Jews are entitled to feel the way they do. Clearly, any Jew who doesn't feel this way isn't a Jew -- otherwise he would. In other words, the test of whether one is a Jew is whether one is paranoid.

> The “new” anti-Semitism, then, is not hatred of Jews or Judaism, but instead criticism of Israel.

Exactly. Today, by definition, a Jew is a Zionist. To be "Jewish" has nothing to do with birth or religious practice -- it concerns only how one feels about Israel. I understand this but I don't think you do. Like many other Jews who are critical of Israel you do not realize you have actually excommunicated yourself.

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To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (25548)6/4/2007 7:02:29 PM
From: sea_urchin  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 81455
 
Germany's Jews warn PM not to promote immigration to Israel

haaretz.com

>>The leaders of Germany's Jewish community have warned Prime Minister Ehud Olmert they would request the German government's help in preventing Israel from encouraging Jews settled in Germany to immigrate to Israel.

Stephan J. Kramer, who heads the Central Council of Jews in Germany, sent the warning following Israel's decision last week to extend the jurisdiction of Nativ , the government body in charge of promoting immigration from the Former Soviet Union to Israel. Nativ and the Jewish Agency will cooperate in running ulpans (Hebrew courses) and other educational programs in Germany, which is home to some 200,000 Russian-speaking Jews who moved there from the Former Soviet Union in recent years.

Two Nativ operatives are supposed to begin operating in Germany this September. Absorption Minister Ze'ev Boim, who opposed the Nativ decision, charged that such action would be wasteful, as such activities are currently performed by the Jewish Agency.

Nativ has long sought permission to operate in Germany, but was blocked by Jewish Agency opposition. Recently, however, Nativ was transferred from the Prime Minister's Office to the new Strategic Affairs Ministry, headed by Avigdor Lieberman, who has said in the past that he favors replacing the American-dominated Jewish Agency with Nativ entirely.

Nativ also sought to extend its field of operations to North America, but the Foreign Ministry foiled this option, arguing it would jeopardize Israel's relations with Washington and with the U.S. Jewish community.<<