To: one_less who wrote (14109 ) 6/5/2007 10:47:45 PM From: J_F_Shepard Read Replies (1) | Respond to Yes, that's exactly what I think......I think you really don't know what you're saying. If you do, you can boil it down into a language even a religious person can understand...do your religious brethren understand you? Those are the folks you're trying to reach, not true? BTW, I sent your description to a couple of scientists interested in the topic and they think you're trying to pull a snow job...."To some extent it is reasonable to conclude that moral goodness is self evident enough to say it is simply good in and of itself to be kind, charitable, compassionate, benevolent etc. It feels right and good to behave this way so you can figure out for yourself that it is morally good, as all people can. "We really know nothing about evolution until we can explain how something comes from nothing. "The universe of space and matter is observable to us because the distinct parts are noticeable from sun to particle by their positions in space." "As they collapse into something more uniform and therefore less distinct, we are less able to notice them as relative parts of the universe separated by space...driven apart by differences." "Their movements away from uniformity or collapses into uniformity are noticeable as space/time events. " "Through entropy diversity is diminished and distinct parts disappear, as does their distinct position in space. In other words they become so much a part of the whole that they have no identity of their own... a sound blending in becomes no sound, a ripple in the lake eventually disappears, and becomes 'nothing', it no longer exists as a distinct piece of the universe." "Absolute uniformity of the universe becomes a oneness that defies description." "So a gumball state of the Universe preparing to bang represents a small very uniform view of existence bound in a tiny space. If the gumball achieves perfect uniformity 'singularity' it needs no space at all and its material parts are indistinguishable. "We can also speculate that time must have a similar course that leads to an end. In order for this to occur material in space must become so uniform that it is no longer distinguishable. At such a time we can no longer notice it, or an occupying space. This is the premise behind black holes btw." "For time to end material and space must return to this singular uniformity allowing for zero occupation in space. " "That would support a banging and collapsing claim. However it does not eliminate the possibility of repeated inflations toward the omega of existence and collapses to the alpha of existence. Neither possibility necessarily, obliterating the other, nor does it obliterate claims of an extra-temporal force." "Physics is a set of laws created by us to help understand certain phenomenon that we are concerned about, no one but a lab cloak cleric would claim physics is the answer to all inquiry."
