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To: Richnorth who wrote (6927)6/5/2007 11:30:42 AM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10087
 
The stated myths appear to be composed by the author as a strawman so that he/she can bolster his/her own counter myth.

Myth 1 is not dispelled by your presentation. The presentation never once addresses the concept of ‘Christian Principles’, which gives it the appearance of author deception.

Myth 2 and 3 are far to broad in their coverage of liberal and conservative representation to be of any practical use, which gives them the appearance of deception for partisan gain.

Myth 4: Who came up with this? It certainly isn’t a platform for any politicians or political groups.

Myth 5: The government isn’t motivated at all.



To: Richnorth who wrote (6927)6/5/2007 11:46:42 AM
From: Bill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10087
 
None of the 5 is a myth.
They are 5 TRUTHS.



To: Richnorth who wrote (6927)6/5/2007 2:38:12 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 10087
 
"Myth 3" isn't a myth at all. Detailed polling shows that the members of most media outlets consistently vote for Democrats, and support liberal causes, to a far greater extent than the general public. And watching how the media deal with issues like gun control, and other issues where there is a sharp divide with one side generally considered conservative and the other liberal shows the liberal media for what it is.

Now if the supposed myth is that the media is uniformly liberal, well that would indeed be a myth. It isn't. Political talk radio is mostly conservative. Internet sites including blogs span the spectrum (with more libertarian voices then you will get elsewhere). But overall, the media, esp. the more "traditional" media tilts to the left.

...only four major corporate networks control American TV news-- up to 75% of the audience share...

...3. Eighty percent of all US newspapers are owned by corporate chains...


Meaningless. Large corporations are far from consistent supporters of conservative ideas, in fact they give a lot of money to liberal causes. Also the corporations mostly care about making money, not partisan political agendas. Maybe you have Rupert Murdoch pushes some conservative ideas, but many of his media holdings aren't very political (for example those covering sports or movies), and while his holdings are large by many standards, they represent only a small part of US market.

5. Conservatives are very well accomodated for across FOX News, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Times, the New York Post, the American Spectator, the Weekly Standard, the Drudge Report, the National Review, etc.

FOX News leans conservative, but no more than the other cable news outlets lean liberal. The Wall Street Journal's editorial page is very conservative, but its news stories are not. The Washington Times is much smaller then the Washington Post, or New York Times, and their liberalism more than balances off its conservatism. You mentioned 3 conservative political magazines, and a web site, but there are also the liberal counterparts.

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