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To: J.B.C. who wrote (59651)	6/7/2007 11:04:57 AM
From: Oeconomicus	Respond to of 90947

"Since when is enforcing existing law equivalent to becoming a police state?" I lost my talking points, so I've been forced to think for myself. Tell me - should I NOT see massive police sweeps of neighborhoods and employers, and arbitrary ID checks of "Mexican-looking" people all over the nation - with violent force wherever cooperation is less than perfect, per Laz - as a police state? I'm soooo confused. What's a police state, again? PS: Existing law says most illegals are guilty of, at most, a misdemeanor and in many case a civil infraction. Shall we bring out the dogs and threaten all Hispanics with violence so that we can be all law-and-order righteous at the expense of civil liberties and the economy while actually catching and deporting relatively few of them? Or shall we avoid the direct costs and anti-libertarian downsides by giving them a chance to come forward voluntarily, pay a large fine, and after jumping a bunch of other hurdles in becoming legal, wait 13 years for a chance at a green card?