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To: combjelly who wrote (339901)	6/9/2007 5:06:44 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571405

CJ, when I went to my first NASCAR race (California Speedway), I noticed several trucks in the parking lot flying Confederate Flags with the number 8 on it. (Or 3, but either way, it was a Dale Earnheart.) I guess the Earnhearts want to own slaves? Tenchusatsu

To: combjelly who wrote (339901)	6/10/2007 1:05:13 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1571405

"Pride in their southern roots and subculture." That is only part of it. The flag in question was the battle flag, and that is about as in your face defiant as you can get. Reconstruction South was a bad time and place to be. For anybody, black or white. It was very punitive for a number of reasons, not the least of which had to do with Lincoln's assassination. And the harder the whites got stepped on, the harder they stepped on the blacks. Taking their frustrations out on the army would get them killed. But the blacks, well, that was easier. So there was a vast resentment which lasted for the better part of a century. Unless you grew up during those years, it is hard to understand. In addition, symbols are very important in Southern culture, so the "Stars and Bars" took on a great deal of significance. What also has been done over time is to make the Civil War seem less controversial and more elevated by saying the war was really about states' rights and economic issues and not so much slavery. At least that's what I was taught. I think it was done to make the South of that time appear less of a villain. However, in the end I think it does everyone a disservice. The war WAS fought over states' rights and economic issues but the thing that brought those issues to the surface was slavery. For the South, slavery was an important economic issue and their right to have slavery became a right of the state. To now claim that the Confederate fight was a fight for freedom and justice is certainly gilding the cage with faux gold and IMO permits the veneration of the Confederate flag by today's southerners. There is never anything glorious about a war and to try and spin glory around the Civil War is both vexing and annoying. In fact, I think the Civil War is in part responsible for why the South of today tends to be more militaristic than the rest of the country. I understand that a military career was a way out of the poverty that clung to the South like Spanish Moss after the Civil War but I think its more than that.....it was a way to reenact the so called 'glory' that was lost with the ending of the Civil War.