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To: Jim S who wrote (59861)6/11/2007 7:03:33 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
"To me, simply asking them to pay a $5k fine and then be suddenly "legal" isn't a very good option.
...
"I think that to come into our country, a person should be required to ask permission from OUTSIDE the country...

"Counter point?"


Yeah. First, they aren't "suddenly legal" - they are on probation. They also have a bunch of hurdles to jump "in order to obtain a probationary Z visa granting temporary, probationary legal status, including:
o Come forward within 18 months of the bill’s enactment
o Plead guilty to breaking the law and be placed on probation
o Pay an extensive fine and processing fee
o Undergo criminal background checks
o Prove they are employed
o Become proficient in English"
Then they have to wait at least eight years (more than ten in most cases) before they become eligible to apply for full "legal" status in the sense of being permanent legal residents.

Second, while your sentiment about how one "should" apply for entry is reasonable, it is far from realistic and also overlooks or ignores the fact that under the compromise bill they DO have to leave the country to apply for permanent resident status. BUT IMHO, you aren't going to get many of them to leave the country now, under nothing more than the threat of deportation if they are ever caught, just for the vague promise that they can apply for one of the relative handful of resident visas this country hands out.

Source for bill points: Sen. Johnny Isakson, one of the architects of the compromise, as reported at politicalvine.com