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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: average joe who wrote (13677)	6/12/2007 6:46:00 AM
From: Tom Clarke	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36918

British artist installs phone link to dying glacier Fri Jun 8, 2007 2:47PM EDT By Avril Ormsby LONDON, June 8 (Reuters Life!) - The creaking and splashing sounds of Europe's largest glacier slipping into an ocean grave are just a phone call away now that an artist has installed a microphone in its surrounding waters. Glaswegian artist Katie Paterson was moved to set up the line after hallucinating about Iceland's giant Vatnajokull glacier during a bout of fever. The link encourages people to connect emotionally with the glacier, she told Reuters from her tent on the Icelandic shoreline. "It is really poetic: a river of ice slowly disintegrating, quite discreetly, quite invisibly. Sheets of ice are constantly slipping off, huge bits cracking, moving very slowly. "It is sad to see a vanishing world." Paterson, a final year student at Slade School of Art in London, decided to use the phone line after fever-induced hallucinations during a previous trip to Iceland. The 25-year-old imagined that the liters of water she drank during recovery were making her feel part of the nearby glacier which supplied the water. Climate change is having a damaging affect on Vatnajokull but the project is more about the glacier's grandeur slipping away, she said. With the help of sponsors, Virgin Mobile and Dolphinear, Paterson was able to drop a hydrophone into the icy lagoon where the glacier is disappearing and pick up the sounds. The waterproof microphone is linked to a phone and amplifier housed in a tent on land. The work, entitled "Vatnajokull (the sound of)", will continue until June 13. Only one caller at a time can get through, which was deliberate so people can have a "one-to-one beautiful and intimate moment" with the glacier, she said. Calls to the number, 07758 225698, are charged at international rates. reuters.com h/t sondrak.com

To: average joe who wrote (13677)	6/12/2007 6:52:11 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36918

A rather amusing sermon from the Pope of the First Church of Crichton the Denialist. Not that we haven't heard it before. I applaud your worship of this pope. Without him, you would only be a cult. Atlas wiped his brow; he was too hot to shrug anymore.

To: average joe who wrote (13677)	6/12/2007 7:36:14 AM
From: Mike McFarland	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36918

That is a very good essay. But I think it is pretty likely that the truth is somewhere between the two positions. Warming is likely, but it wont be all that dramatic--and it will certainly take a very long time. It isn't worth creating a religion over. Some dislocations will occur--so you deal with it if and when it happens. I saw this past week that Toyota has now sold one million Priuses. The vehicles are approximately $5000 overvalued. I think that five BILLION dollars would probably have been better spent elsewhere... Prius owners could have bought absolution by spending the five billion on useful infrastructure, like reservoirs for impoverished regions affected by climate variability. Anyway... And the total cost of ownership of a Prius is suprisingly high. There may be some environmental issues with the Prius as well with mining the nickle. The vehicles complexity means it costs a lot of extra energy and resources to make one versus a simpler car. And on and on. Anyway, I did a little surfing and found three vehicles that are a lot cheaper to own---and get good mileage: Scion xB Toyota Yarus Honda Fit