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To: ajtj99 who wrote (66163)	6/13/2007 4:39:16 PM
From: John Carragher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116555

where is it going to happen. didn't ca. try it and gov got tar and feathered. try to take on civil service employees , there organization are the ones who support those in the state house. they do the organization from door to door, to plants, unions, teachers , state employees, city , towns, etc etc. the state representatives are scared stiff to fight them and will not.. plus they keep giving out more jobs or creating more jobs to take care of those who worked on getting them in office. No idea what it will take.. but what ever it will not happen until it hurts so much you just cannot carry these civil service jobs any longer. Oh, most have cost of living increases built into their retirements. states do not tax their pensions, some have health care paid for.

To: ajtj99 who wrote (66163)	6/13/2007 6:19:16 PM
From: skinowski	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116555

Good to see you, AJ... Hi! Why should the average citizen pay for some civil servant to have their own special health coverage in retirement when most private sector employees only have medicare? Good point. Another redundancy is the VA health care system. Most Vets over 65 have Medicare, and often still go to the VA - to get free medications. Would be about 50 times cheaper just to offer the vets prescription benefits. The important potential problem is that in case of an economic slowdown, or severe inflation, etc. public employees would be in a very privileged situation. They would keep their jobs, get various cost of living adjustments, etc. They could become the pathway - the first recipients - for "unconventional" introduction of liquidity into the economy. This could be very dangerous and unhealthy.