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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (14390)	6/13/2007 9:58:16 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 14758

"Sorry fella, God talks to you.!! How childish. You don't get to declare the conditions of my beliefs, or my argument. How many times are you going to try to slip in little pieces of corn ball dogma of your own to mock. You want to declare a religion and argue against it's doctrine, go ahead. Or if you want to create a believer out of straw and mock him, go ahead. You are indeed sorry and once again you have trashed your side of the discussion with nonsense.

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (14390)	6/13/2007 10:03:09 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 14758

You are lying ... again.

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (14390)	6/14/2007 12:33:14 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14758

"I don't think you reiterated you direct conversations with God, but it would not be doubtful to anyone reading you as to what you meant..... Sorry fella, God talks to you.!!" There is no reason for anyone to take that meaning unless they base they are or they base their thoughts on deliberate ignorance. Certainly, I have sad no such thing nor would I since it is a false statement. You have further alleged that: "How can that be off topic, you've published complete posts on what you believe God wants you to do....he must have told you so in some way.." I have not posted any declarations that God has told me to do something or that I believe God wants me to do something. Your allegation is false. I provided a description of Omniscience that could be the basis for an All Knowing, All Powerful Creative being. Whether one believes such a being exists or not isn't necessary in following the rational of how the being operates. Belief that an Omniscient being wants something is a contradiction in terms. Wants, as we understand the term, are derived from needs. By definition an Omniscient being is All, thus 'needs' and 'wants' do not apply. Creating creatures with free will, and a nature that could determine a satisfactory outcome for the creature of will based on right adherence to conditions which are good for the human condition vs an outcome based on week resistance to Worldly temptations, does not leave the Omniscient Being wanting one or the other outcome. That's simply definitional and sound logic. You don't have to believe in an Omniscient Being to believe that, you simply need to follow the logic to get it.