To: Captain James T. Kirk who wrote (10157 ) 6/14/2007 9:00:22 PM From: bearclaw51 Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 12518 Nice spin Captain...Posted the PM because...hahahahah...OK you want some answers...OK I do have some problems with Turek but not enough to jump on the war wagon...I do think there a some folks who honestly agree with much of what the bears are saying and are pissed off. I think some are really looking after other investors. I can respect that. I agree with some of it too. I also know this has been shorted, as Turek was diluting, since .015 or so. I do believe that position is huge. Could be up to 5+ billion shares including all the brokers.IMO These are the folks who continue to slam this company, recruit management at ProMold, continue to push Fraud and manically contact multiple folks with e-mails, phone calls and faxes...Who also are pushing for a Chapter 7 with similar tactics and on and on...too long to list. The time, effort and cost is unreasonable to assume they are part of the "defenders of the Newbies" crowd. Their agenda is obvious. So, how do I weed out the defenders as opposed to the skin shedders? I know who 8 or so skin shedders are...but it's impossible IMO to weed out the rest...so I treat all as if they are the skin shedders...unless they convince me different...None have yet...Look at Elbac as an example...diagnosable IMO...No choice. I know the background, training ground, history and experience of the skin shedders...Too dangerous to get mixed up with...better to go toe to toe...IMO I believe Turek will do the same as he did with Wicklund coming out of Chapter 11. I wish I knew his plan for the 73% of the OS but I don't...To me, it's simple now...not too complicated and the wait is on..I respond to attacks...Mostly from the 8 or so I know about...You don't get much sheet out of me unless you come find me now...So we'll see what happens. Oh...No relation to Turek...He's not Irish Catholic...Murphy is though...