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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (208861)	6/18/2007 2:01:50 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793866

The "powers that be" just happen to = America, America, America. That was a colorful rant but it misses the point, IMO. You're conflating "the powers that be" with "America." I realize that it's hard for Bushies to understand but Bush is not the same as America. One can hate acts of the administration, any administration, without hating America. There have been many acts performed in the name of the US that I disapprove, even despise. Surely there have been acts that you despise. Almost everyone now despises slavery. Does that make abolitionists anti-American? We can despise certain acts taken in the name of our country without being anti-American. Surely there is something on that list of grievances of which you disapprove, that you wish had not been done in your name. Surely. The step from "knew in advance and did nothing to stop it" to "an inside job" is small and easy to take. Good grief!! You must have incredibly long legs.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (208861)	6/18/2007 3:29:55 PM
From: skinowski	Respond to of 793866

Nobody else can act. Listen, and you will hear this as a common theme. America acts, everybody else merely reacts, and very understandably and excusably too. Nobody else can act. Nobody else can take moral responsibility either. So we have moral perversions that blame America more for not stopping the genocide in the Sudan than blame the Sudanese government for committing it in the first place ... ...Displacement is the neurotic response that moves a fear from its proper target to some other less threatening and more controllable target I was wondering about this phenomenon some time ago. Tried to label it "Americacentrism", but I think it didn't stick. The notion of a "less threatening and more controllable target" could be key here. Those individuals are playing the system (our system) because it is safe to do so. They know that no matter what they will not disappear one night. They couldn't quite go and screw with Dr. Assad or with Sudanese tough guys, could they....