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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (233928)	6/20/2007 3:37:55 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I'm not sure I agree with you. We've really just been their weapons supplier since the sixties. There may be some individuals involved in that scheme. I've read the "Clean Break" documents. As for Pearle, Feith, Wolfowitz etc., they're just the most deeply penetrated of the dual-loyalty Zionists lately embedded in our government. They'd LOVE to see us stuck in the ME firmly and permanently with a total WWII level commitment, right next to their real cause, Israel.

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (233928)	6/20/2007 4:31:56 PM
From: el_gaviero	Respond to of 281500

As usual, you get it right.

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (233928)	6/21/2007 2:39:41 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Besides, the Jews made a good propaganda tool during the war by making the Germans the most evil enemy of all time. The US and Brits didn't use the news for propaganda during the war, they buried it. You can hardly find a mention of it. They didn't want to know, and they certainly didn't want to be asked to do anything to stop it. Those who did know couldn't even get bombers diverted to bomb the railways into the camps. It became big news at the end of the war, after the Brits liberated Belsen and brought in newsreel cameras. The Brits had heard that something bad was going on. But the soldiers who entered the camp had not expected to encounter a pile of 30,000 rotting corpses. It's very easy to mistakenly project the attitudes of one period back onto another. It leads to erroneous conclusions, however.

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (233928)	6/23/2007 10:55:21 AM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

Besides, the Jews made a good propaganda tool during the war by making the Germans the most evil enemy of all time. Propaganda tool? Yes, for Hitler. Except he was deadly serious. His propaganda foreshadowed his actions. Your thesis that Hitler's hatred of Jews and his annihilation of many millions of them was somehow used for propaganda is, well, insane. If it is true, it isn't propaganda. Since you think the West's characterization of Hitler's evil acts and intentions was somehow propaganda despite the undeniable - well, by the mentally stable, anyway - fact that his evil was quite true, I suspect there is a warm space in your dark little heart for Adolph and his Holocaust. Sick. You are one stupid little jerk. Hitler was the 'victim' of propaganda much like any opponent in a war is a victim of propaganda but if I recall correctly, the salvation of Jews was hardly the centerpiece of the UK's and the American's efforts. And the French? The French have never gathered under a 'save the Jews" banner and never will. The problem is that you are so indoctrinated into ME-style antisemitism that everything takes on an antisemitic color. Sad and stupid yet uterly predictable.