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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (3929)	6/20/2007 2:36:43 PM
From: JeffA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5569

How will people come to follow a MAN that declares himself to be the second coming of Christ? Jesus is not coming back in the form of a man, he is not coming to unite, he is coming back to judge.

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (3929)	6/20/2007 3:08:44 PM
From: alan w	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5569

Wow. Over 2 years have elapsed and you're still saying the church is spiritual Israel? You never explained this one to me Sidney: We were talking about Romans 11 here To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (3088) 3/25/2005 6:49:58 PM From: alan w of 3933 Hi Sidney. I think you're still missing the point of the verse. National Israel (Paul's blood kin) rejected Christ. Of this fact, I think we both agree. The reason they rejected Him is where we tend to disagree. I believe they have rejected Christ because God put a veil over them. Eyes that couldn't see Him and ears that couldn't hear Him. For a purpose. Salvation of the nations. Emile continually attacks without taking God's plan into account. Christ admonished men to "be like your Father in heaven and love your enemies". I think Emile conveniently ignores both God's blinding of Israel and Christ's teaching of love. Who are the true Hebrews today? Edit 6-20-2007 as pertaining to verse 25: I don't know, but God does. They can't be believers(ie the body of Christ) because the verse makes no sense to say "as soon as all the gentile believers have all believed, then God will lift the veil of the believers and they will also believe". Mass confusion. Have a good weekend! alanw PS 6-20-2007 Glad to see some activity on this board. I've missed it. And I've missed you guys too!

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (3929)	6/20/2007 6:45:23 PM
From: atm_prophet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5569

My friend, you are sadly mistaken. Over and over in the new testament, Israel (in the flesh), Jews, will have a very specific role and are still his people. Give me your email address and I will send you information proving this from the word. The great deception is what you are stating. The people that God sent across your path have not rightly divided the word, but have unknowingly, missed the mark and you are holding a very dangerous conclusion in your heart and mind. They are the natural branch and we were grafted in, the unnatural branch. If the grafting in of the unnatural branch meant the salvation to the gentiles, how much more when the natural branch (Israel) is reconnected to the vine, truly as Jesus stated the raising of the dead. Who do you think the 144,000 powerful Godly men and woman of the last days, referred to in Revelation are who will turn this world upside down with their powerful anointing of the Holy Spirit? Hint they are definitely not the Church of the latter day saints (MORMONS) but 12,000 from each of the twelve tribes of Israel, do the math (144,000) Jewish converts to their messiah as the revelation of Jesus as their messiah whom they rejected two thousand years ago, but when they are awakened to this truth, their message will be unlike any before them and they will do marvelous things of God and many will be brought into the faith and many of them will be martyred, especially by be-headings. To say that God has abandoned his people, the Jews, is part of the great deception already at work.... just one small component. Sydney, get the book the "Promised Land" by Derek Prince ... It is critical ... read is and then get back to me. Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem, that her hard sentence has been completed. The literal restoration of the Jews, not only to their own land but to Jehovah their God is vital to understand. Be not deceived, God has not abandoned the Jews, far from it, he will manifest his glory to all nations, once again, when he literally goes out and fights on the side of Israel in the great persecution to come. READ 'PROMISE LAND' by Derek Prince .... then let us talk.