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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (8520)6/22/2007 6:45:15 PM
From: Ichy Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20106
 
The people of Gaza voted for hamas, let Hamas Feed them, any food from Israel will be paid back in bombs and bullets, so let them get aid from their Nazi Friends in Islam.



To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (8520)6/23/2007 10:41:09 AM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20106
 
Window dressing...Saudi religious police face trial
Magdi Abdelhadi
BBC Arab affairs analyst

news.bbc.co.uk

The religious police enforce Islamic codes of dress and morality
Members of the feared religious police in Saudi Arabia are for the first time due to stand trial over the deaths in their custody of two men.
The deaths, which occurred a few weeks ago, sparked a media uproar, leading to calls for a re-evaluation of the force's role and responsibilities.

One of the dead men had been accused of socialising with an unrelated woman, the other of alleged alcohol peddling.

Both died shortly after being detained by the religious police.

Members of the force, known as The Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, roam the streets to make sure that shops are closed during prayer time, and that women observe the strict dress code and that they do not mix with unrelated males.

Balance of power

Over the past few years, criticism of the force has grown louder and the Saudi royal family promised reform.

As a result, the religious police had some of its powers curtailed.

But the deaths of the men in custody have reignited the debate about the wide-ranging powers given to its members.

One Saudi columnist wrote that the religious police enjoyed immunity of any kind of accountability and that they have "have taken on the role of the policeman, judge and jury".

The Saudi government has sought to play down the significance of the incidents.

It is a difficult balancing act for the rulers of Saudi Arabia.

The royal family derives its legitimacy from presenting itself as the upholder of Islamic Sharia.

It would not like to be seen as undermining the power of the religious police, neither can it afford to alienate an angry public.

The trial will be watched closely by supporters of the police as well as their critics.

Its outcome will most likely affect the balance of power between the powerful religious establishment and those who want to see change in the conservative kingdom.




To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (8520)6/23/2007 11:49:40 AM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20106
 
US House votes to ban Saudi aid

english.aljazeera.net

The US state department has routinely criticised
Saudi Arabia for religious intolerance [EPA]

The US House of Representatives has voted to prohibit any aid to Saudi Arabia as congressmen accused the close ally of religious intolerance and bankrolling armed groups.

The prohibition was attached to a foreign aid funding bill for next year that has not yet been debated by the US senate.

"By cutting off aid and closing the loophole we send a clear message to the Saudi Arabian government that they must be a true ally in advancing peace in the Middle East," Anthony Weiner, a Democratic congressman, said.

In the past three years, congress has passed bills to stop the relatively small amount of US aid to Saudi Arabia, only to see the administration of George Bush, the president, circumvent the prohibitions.

Now, congressmen are trying to close loopholes so that no more US aid can be sent to the world's leading petroleum exporter.

According to supporters of the legislation, the United States provided $2.5m to Riyadh in 2005 and 2006.

Contentious aid

The money has been used to train Saudis in counter-terrorism and border security and to pay for Saudi military officers to attend US military school.

"With poor countries all over the globe begging us for help, why are we giving money to this oil-rich nation?"

Shelley Berkley, Democratic congressman
"Saudi Arabia propagates terrorism," Shelley Berkley, another Democrat, said, highlighting that 15 of the 19 September 11 hijackers were Saudi.

She added that Saudi youths had entered Iraq to "wage jihad" against US forces fighting there.

Osama bin Laden, the Saudi-born leader of the al-Qaeda group that carried out the September 11 attacks, was expelled from the kingdom in 1991 for anti-government activities.

Members of the House of Representatives also complained that with Saudi Arabia's vast wealth from oil revenues, US taxpayers do not need to subsidise training Saudis.

"With poor countries all over the globe begging us for help, why are we giving money to this oil-rich nation?" Berkley said.

The US state department has routinely criticised Saudi Arabia for religious intolerance, disenfranchisement of women and arbitrary justice.

Source: Agencies



To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (8520)6/23/2007 8:07:16 PM
From: lorne  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 20106
 
Anti-Muslim Groups Unite Through Internet
By Dean E. Murphy, New York times,
2 June 2001
themodernreligion.com

Web site run by militant Hindus in Queens and Long Island was recently shut down by its service provider because of complaints that it advocated hatred and violence toward Muslims. But a few days later, the site was back on the Internet. The unlikely rescuers were some radical Jews in Brooklyn who are under investigation for possible ties to anti-Arab terrorist organizations in Israel.

The unusual alliance brings together two extreme religious philosophies from different parts of the world that, at first glance, have little in common. But living elbow-to-elbow in the ethnic mix of New York, the small groups of Hindus and Jews have discovered that sharing a distant enemy is sufficient basis for friendship.

So tight is their anti-Muslim bond that some of the Hindus marched alongside the Jews in the annual Salute to Israel Parade on Fifth Avenue last month. Yesterday, several of the Jews joined a protest outside theUnited Nations against the treatment of Hindus in Afghanistan by the Taliban regime.

"We are fighting the same war," said Rohit Vyasmaan, who helps run the Hindu Web site, HinduUnity.org, from his home in Flushing, Queens. "Whether you call them Palestinians, Afghans or Pakistanis, the root of the problem for Hindus and Jews is Islam."

The budding Hindu-Jewish relationship presents a view that counters a popular perception of New York City not as an open door to immigrantsseeking a better life, but as a political way station, where some people come or stay not to make money but to engage in politics from afar.

For some of the Jews in Brooklyn and the Hindus in Queens and Long Island, their time in the United States is temporary, made necessary only because of the threat of Islam in South Asia and the Middle East. Ultimately, members of both groups said, they must leave New York to confront the enemy face-to-face.

"I would love to move back to India provided the situation improves there," Mr. Vyasmaan said. "We have made a promise to do so."

Mr. Vyasmaan, who is 30 and came to New York from New Delhi when he was 13, said matter-of-factly that he and many others expect to die in the battle for Hindu supremacy. Nonetheless, he is protective of the identities of some of HinduUnity.org's biggest financial backers.

Some of them have been implicated in Hindu nationalist acts in India and are only in the United States biding their time, he said. One of the site's major supporters on Long Island was involved in destroying an ancient mosque at Ayodhya in northern India in 1992, Mr. Vyasmaan said. The mosque was built on a site that is also holy to Hindus. The incident led to widespread rioting between Hindus and Muslims in India, and it isstill profoundly divisive.

"Now they won't let us build a temple at the site of the mosque," Mr. Vyasmaan said. "So there is more controversy. He plans to go back."

HinduUnity.org advertises itself as the official site of Bajrang Dal, a fundamentalist Hindu movement in India that has chapters throughout that country and has frequently clashed with Muslims and was among the groups blamed for the 1992 attack. The Web site also goes by the name Soldiers of Hindutva, a term that refers to the primacy of Hindu religion and culture. Mr. Vyasmaan said the Web site has 500 people affiliated with it.

The Jews in Brooklyn, meanwhile, are followers of Rabbi Meir David Kahane, the assassinated Israeli politician whose teachings advocated the expulsion from Israel of all Arabs, most of whom are Muslim.

Their headquarters in Brooklyn was raided in January by the F.B.I. as part of a federal investigation into their association with two Kahane political parties that were banned in Israel and designated as terrorist organizations by the State Department. The designations followed a series of violent attacks on Palestinians, including the killing in 1994 of 29 Muslims in the West Bank by Baruch Goldstein, a Kahane adherent who was born in Brooklyn.

Central to the Kahane message is that all Jews belong in Israel, making any Jew in the United States a temporary resident. Many of the group's biggest supporters shuttle back and forth between Israel and New York, keeping one foot in each country.

Rabbi Kahane was Brooklyn-born, as were many of his supporters, and was shot to death at a Manhattan hotel in 1990. His son, Binyamin, who took up his father's teachings, also carried an American passport but spent most of his time in Israel. He was killed with his wife when their car was ambushed in the West Bank in December.

During his last visit to New York, two weeks before his death, Binyamin Kahane reminded a gathering of several hundred supporters in Brooklyn of their obligation to settle in Israel.

The Brooklyn group runs a Web site, Kahane.org, that aims to keep the Kahane movement alive despite the political crackdown in Israel and the terrorist designations in the United States. The site's manager, Michael Guzofsky, said the Jewish-Hindu relationship in New York is a practical one that reflects a common suffering at the hands of Muslims. The alliance is born from adversity, he said, and transcends the differences in their religious traditions, which, he acknowledged, the two groups have never addressed in detail.

"I definitely understand their pain even if I don't know much about their faith," Mr. Guzofsky said of the Hindu fundamentalists. "Their Web site isa little more militant than ours, but an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth kind of speech is something you can find in the Old Testament. I am not going to judge people who have been oppressed by others and who fight back."

The Hindu Web site is up and running only because Mr. Guzofsky and other Kahane backers came to its rescue. Several weeks ago, the company that ran the site's Internet server, Addr.com of Greenwood Village, Colo., notified Mr. Vyasmaan that it was canceling its contract.

Matt Johnson, a representative of Addr.com, said that the company had received complaints about offensive content on the site, which contains historical accounts about Hinduism and the centuries-long conflict between Hindus and Muslims in South Asia. This week, a commentary on the site called on Hindus "to stand up and take arms" against Muslims in India,urging them to "exterminate and banish" them. The site also urged Hindus to "Fight if you must! Die if you must!"

Mr. Johnson said representatives from HinduUnity.org contended that the Web site was informational and did not advocate violence. But after three days of telephone calls between New York and Colorado, Mr. Johnson said, the company decided to pull the plug, saying that HinduUnity.org was a hate site.

When Mr. Vyasmaan got word of the decision, his first call was to Mr. Guzofsky's office at the Hatikva Jewish Identity Center in Brooklyn. Mr. Guzofsky had run into a similar problem in December, when he was forced to find a new server because of complaints about the Kahane site. Mr. Guzofsky was in Israel, but he returned the phone call within hours and quickly set out to solve Mr. Vyasmaan's problem.

The solution came by means of a businessman in Annandale, Va., Gary Wardell, who designs and services Web sites and who branched out into the server business last year. Mr. Wardell offered to help Mr. Guzofsky in December when he read about kahane.org's problems, eventually taking on the job as the Kahane site's host. Although Mr. Wardell said he is converting to Judaism from Christianity and has taken an avid interest in the teachings of Rabbi Kahane, he said his motivation in assisting Mr. Guzofsky was as much financial as religious.

"I am a small business and I need customers," Mr. Wardell said. "Sometimes when you have bills to pay, that takes the focus of your attention."

Early last month, when Mr. Guzofsky told him about HinduUnity.org, Mr. Wardell agreed to a similar business relationship for the same bottom-line reasons, he said.

Mr. Guzofsky said his group had not officially endorsed the views on the Hindu Web site, but they support the right of the Hindus to express them. For that reason, there is a link to HinduUnity.org on the Kahane Web site and, Mr. Guzofsky posted an announcement this week about the Hindu protest outside the United Nations.

"It is a core issue of free speech," Mr. Guzofsky said. "We have made it clear to the folks at HinduUnity.org that if their site ever comes down again, we will offer them a mirror site with ours so people can be updated concerning their events. I would hope they would do the same for us."

Mr. Vyasmaan said there is no doubt that the favor would be returned. Already, he said, Hindus associated with the Web site have written to Congress urging that the two Kahane political parties be removed from the State Department's list of terrorist organizations. It is a cause very dear to Mr. Guzofsky, who said he was recently asked by the authorities to submit fingerprints and handwriting samples for use in their investigationinto his Brooklyn operations.

Mr. Vyasmaan said doubters of the Hindu-Jewish commitment need to look no further than his home in Flushing, where he displays a large picture of Rabbi Kahane.

"He was a great man," Mr. Vyasmaan said. "It almost appeared as if he was speaking for the Hindus."