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To: Dale Baker who wrote (38698)	6/24/2007 10:50:22 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 541933

"Voters respond best when politicians address them as who they are, not dictating who they must be to meet one group's agenda." Doesn't injecting faith do precisely the above?- dictating who they must be to meet an agenda? I mean nothing tells you more about who you are or ought to be, than religion, and faith, in the way most people understand it. I think what the separation of church and state people have is a marketing problem, and nothing more. With enough focus groups I feel confident you could sell it. But politicians need a reason to sell it. If we just give up on the idea, we will just get more self serving religious blather from both sides, and I don't see that serving the republic well in the long run.

To: Dale Baker who wrote (38698)	6/24/2007 11:30:39 AM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541933

If I can prolong the agony... What I read into Obama's words was an attempt to regain some control over the issue. It's one of those terms that was highjacked by the Right. He seemed to be trying to say he respects separation in the legal sense, but that much of who we are springs from faith-- not just the Far Right kind who have cornered a nasty market on it, but acknowledging that much of what we do, the choices we make, is informed by it. Even though I am not religious, I understand that I was raised in a strong Judeo-Christian environment with those values. Hopefully, he doesn't mean the prayer in schools, Ten Commandments in public buildings kind of superficial crap, but the regaining of our commitment to others and a general good. It may have been a bit too nuanced. That said, I am NOT in favor of universal health care at this time, and he has a ways to go for my vote on that.