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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (1914)	6/25/2007 9:22:52 PM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4152

Like I said in the earlier post, take it up with them--they are the scientists who have researched it. Here is their contact page: awi.de You can get to their home page and their purpose and research from there. I don't think it is unreasonable to believe that we "will probably have to adopt multiple strategies." I heard a scientist from Rutgers talk a couple of months ago (a couple of weeks after the most recent IPCC report came out) about GW and carbon. He was a member of the first IPCC group. He said that the consensus among scientists right now is that at 450 ppm (we are at about 387-400 now) of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, we will begin to see the really extreme effects. That could happen relatively soon at the rate we are going. Historically, the atmosphere has been between 190 and 290 (I forget offhand his timeline for what he means by "historically," but it was at least 000s of years, and perhaps as high 650,000 years). He showed graphs of the rate of increase going back to 1750--the rise was fairly steady but slow after 1800, began increasing faster after 1950, with very dramatic increases after 1980 or so. Contrary to the public image of "tree huggers," most environmentalists don't want to return to a pre-industrial time. They just want to make industry work for humans and civilization rather than make the planet unhospitable for our grandchildren and their descendents. I know it's hard for some people to get that, and that they consider it either highly speculative or they think that "apres moi, les deluge" is OK, but....