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To: ManyMoose who wrote (38857)	6/27/2007 7:29:26 AM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541842

>>I don't know why you have a problem with timber companies making a profit. If they can't do that, then why would they bother making the boards for your house? See, you're just as much a part of this as any of them, unless you're some kind of monk. << MM - That leads to another question. Why do people who live in places where there are hurricanes and/or tornadoes continue to build their houses out of wood? I lived in Cozumel, Mexico for a time. It's a tiny island in the Caribbean, near Cancun. Cozumel was hit by two hurricanes in 2005. First there was Emily, then Wilma - the most powerful hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic basin. Wilma stayed over Cozumel for two full days, raking the island with sustained winds of more than 175 miles per hour, and gusts over 200. While there was damage from both storms, and especially from Wilma, most of the houses and other buildings on the island remained standing. Why? Because they were made of cement. As any little pig knows, if you build your house of sticks, the Big Bad Wolf will blow it down. That's why it amazes me to hear about lumber shortages in the aftermath of hurricanes. - Allen

To: ManyMoose who wrote (38857)	6/27/2007 10:53:41 AM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541842

ManyMoose; Interesting reply. You spent a lot of time and effort explaining your position and I respect that. However in all the rambling about good forest practices - you missed the most important point I was trying to make. That is; in a capitalistic economy, why must the timber companies have to rely on below cost timber sales? Why do you expect me to pay taxes to the government to subsidize profit for your industry? It is corporate socialism! As to your comments on the people living in trees? How many people do you know that sit in trees? In my area of the world where we had tremendous battle between hunters and fisherman and outdoors people who realized the insanity of unsustainable logging practices and who all came together, I never saw or heard of one single instance of a person in a tree. In typical fashion of the far right, you have taken an extremely isolated event and tried to stereotype all of the people who do not agree with your position. Most people don't sit in trees and most people do not want to pay for timber company profits. After the improvements of the NW Forest Plan, we could likely agree on most of your good forest practices - but don't ask me to pay for them! steve