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To: epicure who wrote (38967)6/29/2007 11:10:24 AM
From: Dale Baker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541777
 
It doesn't work for me to take ideological labels and create sound-byte definitions for them. That's the usual fare in partisan bashing, and it doesn't get anyone anywhere (except the me good you suck chants).

I prefer to look at a range of issues and positions and see what they tell you about the person. After all, politics is supposed to be about solving problems and issues rather than who takes which posture.

JMHO.



To: epicure who wrote (38967)6/29/2007 11:45:47 AM
From: NAG1  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541777
 
Iktomi,

I don't like labels. When people and ideas get labeled, there is a tendency not to pay attention to the person or the idea but to the label.

I think what the world needs is more good ideas and more people to listen to what is being said rather than to pay attention to the labels. My biggest gripe with much of the media is that there is very little honest discussion of ideas. Ideas tend to get labeled and then attacked or supported based on the label attached, not the merits of the idea.

I used to listen and support NPR but found some of their ideas and stories very slanted to one side or the other. I used to find them as being more objective and a good place to get both sides of the story but not as much anymore so I have stopped listening and supporting them. The only show that I miss is the Diane Reams(sp?) show. She picks good topics and has guests that speak to the question asked and listen to each other without the shouting that has taken the place of honest debate. Unfortunately, the only place I was able to intermittently pick her up is when I was driving and I didn't get much of a chance to listen to hear anymore.

Neal



To: epicure who wrote (38967)6/29/2007 11:52:44 AM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541777
 
I've pretty much tried to give up the notion of "liberals" or "conservatives" as serious political labels. I use them but more as placeholders, as devices to shorten a conversation in which we all, however vaguely, are referring to the same constellation. Particularly when used in fairly concrete discussions about political issues.

But as analytical tools, I don't find them helpful.