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To: combjelly who wrote (341722)	6/29/2007 2:24:16 PM
From: Tadsamillionaire	Respond to of 1575354

The U.S. Senate's rejection of a bill that eventually would legalize millions of undocumented migrants – most of them Mexican – is a loss both for workers trying to better their lives in the north and the U.S. employers who have come to rely on them, Mexican officials and editorial writers lamented Friday. Opinion makers commenting in Mexico's major newspapers said the Senate's action was hypocritical because it demonstrated that while the U.S. needs cheap labor from south of the border, it doesn't want to legitimize its workers. “It's obvious that the politicians of that country want laborers, but they are not willing to legalize the labor that they need,” declared an editorial in the national daily El Universal, whose front page headline announced that the U.S. had “buried” immigration reform. Migrants “will continue to be subjected to extraordinary means of discrimination,” the editorial said. “It is an error because the big fear in that country, terrorism, will not benefit from this subculture of illegality by rejecting the regularization of the flow of migrants that cross the border.” An editorial in the left-leaning daily La Jornada called the decision a “triple shipwreck,” citing the decision as a failure of the Bush administration, the United States, and President Felipe Calderón who, unlike his predecessor, Vicente Fox, did not push Washington on the issue. “For Bush, the Senate's rejection of this migration proposal ... underscores the weakness of his presidency even among his fellow Republicans,” the editorial said. “The most powerful country on the planet will have to continue living, for many more months, with the scandalous contradiction between its laws and the real needs of its economy, thirsty for cheap labor to guarantee the international competitiveness of its exports, especially in agriculture.” The newspaper also criticized Calderón for not doing enough to promote immigration reform, saying the president acted “with an indolence that would have made one think that the issue didn't even concern Mexico.” Fox, who left office in December, made immigration reform with the United States his top priority, and his foreign secretary, Jorge Castaneda, said Mexico wanted nothing less than a fully comprehensive immigration reform that would legalize workers, what he referred to as “the whole enchilada.”

To: combjelly who wrote (341722)	6/29/2007 8:44:08 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1575354

"when do the wealthy and the people in power share that power and wealth willingly? " They don't. If the others gang together and demand that they share power, then it can happen, however slowly. But that has never happened consistently in Mexico. Especially over the past century or so, the ones with power have managed to sell the idea that the root of Mexico's problems is the US. And, to a limited extent, they have a point. We do meddle in their politics on occasion and we certainly could invest more. In addition, we have exploited Mexico and have been responsible for a lot of nastiness. However, most of those things happened a long time ago. Those events have been exploited to keep the status quo. Until that changes, Mexico will continue to be poor. That's part of it but I think these days it has more to do with their culture and lack of education. Some of the Central American and Mexican gangs are powerful enough that if organized could challenge the gov'ts of Mexico and Central America. Instead, they smuggle drugs into the US and war with each other. There is the concept of mañana: its too big a hassle; why deal with it today. And the other is the Catholic religion.......things may be bad here but when they get to heaven, life will be wonderful. And there is illegal immigration that acts as a pressure valve, keeping bad gov'ts in power. The whole concept behind illegal migration is crazy......and yes, I understand that there are better opportunities here. The way it works is they cross the border illegally, risking arrest and other dangers, so they can work and send money back to their families in Mexico. The concept includes the dream that eventually they will have their own business or farm in Mexico. Its a pretty miserable existence.....10 guys to a one bedroom apt. sleeping in shifts. To offset the misery.....many of them drink. Eventually out of sheer loneliness, they hook up with a woman here.........get involved with her, have children and then are supporting two families, neither one very well.....or they bring their families from Mexico whre they were poor but living a somewhat healthy existence in the countryside, and end up in an impoverished barrio in some American city. Then the dream gets transferred to the children but they still have one foot planted in each of the two countries.....the children grow up battling discrimination, acting as translators for their parents........becoming confused and angry. In CA, they have a special name for them......Chicanos....neither American nor Mexican. Eventually they join a gang to get an identity which usually leads to their death or imprisonment. This whole process is badly flawed and ends up costing this country lots of money. And maybe if they stayed in Mexico, they might force changes on the gov't that would make life better for them there.