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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: MichaelSkyy who wrote (14292)	6/30/2007 2:25:56 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

"Although it's tempting to blame the ice loss on global warming, researchers think that deforestation of the mountain's foothills is the more likely culprit. Any legitimate report would have identified the researchers who make the claim. Science does not operate by anonymous and unsubstantiated claims. TP

To: MichaelSkyy who wrote (14292)	6/30/2007 6:07:05 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 36917

Here is another version; the press release, actually... very interesting... Many of the comments by the reviewers are strongly critical of claims contained in the final report, and they are directly at odds with the so-called "scientific consensus" touted by Gore and others calling for immediate government action. For example, the following comment by Eric Steig appears in Second Order Draft Comments, Chapter 6; section 6-42: In general, the certainty with which this chapter presents our understanding of abrupt climate change is overstated. There is confusion between hypothesis and evidence throughout the chapter, and a great deal of confusion on the differences between an abrupt "climate change" and possible, hypothetical causes of such climate changes. heartland.org Eric Steig? I know that name. What does he say? The lag between temperature and CO2. (Gore’s got it right.) Eric STEIG Message 23501110 === 10 May 2006 Al Gore’s movie by Eric Steig How well does the film handle the science? Admirably, I thought. It is remarkably up to date, with reference to some of the very latest research. Discussion of recent changes in Antarctica and Greenland are expertly laid out. He also does a very good job in talking about the relationship between sea surface temperature and hurricane intensity. As one might expect, he uses the Katrina disaster to underscore the point that climate change may have serious impacts on society, but he doesn't highlight the connection any more than is appropriate (see our post on this, here). realclimate.org