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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (6030)	7/5/2007 7:52:44 AM
From: Sedohr Nod	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25737

Nicely done...the latest attempts in the U.K. should tend to make their aims clearer. It's not just dead enders out to kill themselves for glory...it is a diseased train of thought covering a larger economic spectrum in the muslim world. Their actions will eventually convince even the slowest among us that we are indeed at war.

To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (6030)	7/5/2007 8:38:14 AM
From: Joe Sixer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25737

.... and how do you propose we subdue over a billion Muslims? Nuke em? Do we deport the millions that are here in the U.S prior to that? Let's just secure the borders and start there.

To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (6030)	7/5/2007 12:39:30 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25737

Re: "...clearly saying that, even in Saudi Arabia, our "friends of the West," they have been teaching this....' THAT's what I said. (And have been saying for a long time now....) (So, you agree with me, but don't notice that you are doing so? How is that possible?) Re: "islam has begun it's next crusade...." ALL THE MORE REASON THEN for effective strategies, with an eye out for the long-term, not the short-term... such as ENDING THE IDIOCY of standing in the middle of Islam's incipient civil/religious war, and (by foolishly trying to prevent the Shiite/Sunni conflicts from actualizing and expanding) drawing the ire and spite toward ourselves instead of BENEFITING FROM ISLAM ATTACKING ITSELF. Which is what I've been arguing all along. Alright, they don't like us (& more-and-more arrive at that every day - obviously current policy is nowhere near successful). Instead of wailing about the unsavory and undesired developments, and following INEFFECTIVE and WASTEFUL STRATEGIES that appear to harm our national interests and actually SHARPEN the dangers facing us... take EFFECTIVE ACTIONS, and CLEVER STRATEGIES that actually WORK TOWARD ACHIEVING OUR LONG-TERM STRATEGIC INTERESTS, (like telling Uncle Sucker to stand aside from the inter-Islamic wars a-brewing). Play it smart for once. Don't be manipulated into fighting for someone else's goals, (particularly corrupt Monarchies, Theocracies, and Dictatorships....) You yourself said 'they aren't out friends'. So, why in the world would you want to fight their battles for them? Pouring our national treasury out in the sands of the Middle East to no avail instead of watching extremists exhaust themselves and devalue their causes by fighting each other.... When one's enemy is self-destructing, the first rule is: STAND ASIDE!