To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (342407 ) 7/8/2007 12:24:23 PM From: tejek Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572014 Ted, > You call this post intelligent conversation? No I don't, but I remember when Z tried to call out Stevie on his "liberal playbook." > You're putting words in people's mouths and it's really f---ing annoying, to say nothing of being anti-intellectual. Every time I see you throw out a statement like this one, I want you to tell me three "liberals" on this thread who've made such statements.Message 23514438 ; That's because Steve does put words into people's mouths. For an example, I am a terrorist supporter because I am sickened by seeing 14 year olds dead on the streets of Iraq and was disturbed by Israel's 24/7 bombing of Lebanon. I don't remember you saying anything to Steve calling him out for his intentional misrepresentation of my position. And see that's the problem with your side........you have some very mean, crazy people speaking on your behalf......the classic example is Ann Coulter but no one ever muzzles her.....which suggests you support what she says. However, if I misspeak, Z or CJ or John or Chris will point out my misrepresentation, or inappropriate position. In fact, Z disagrees with my position on illegal immigration nearly 100% and said so very definitively. We don't agree with each other on every point and are not afraid to admit it publicly. Since that doesn't happen on your side, it falls to us to point it out. And that's what Z was doing with Steve. But that's not what you doing with JF......you were saying you didn't like John's answers and instead of logically supporting your position, you went on a rant and then accused him of not providing an intelligent conversation when you were being nearly unintelligible.I went back to John's post and counted three instances of him putting words in my mouth. I don't feel like calling him out on that, though, since I know he doesn't give a damn and he'll just do it again and again ... all the while accusing me of what he is doing. But that's not what your complaint was in the post that I cited. You accused him of being self righteous. You became defensive and indignant.......the unspoken threat was 'you were taking your toys and going home'. In reality, there were instances where JF did put words in your mouth.....so call him on those instances and demand he retract them, or provide substantive evidence to support his position like Z did with Steve. There is nothing wrong with that.....it makes for intelligent discourse. One last point.......you are one of the more intelligent posters from the right so you are put to a higher standard than some of the others. Not fair but then life ain't fair.