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To: Joan Osland Graffius who wrote (108293)	7/9/2007 12:07:16 AM
From: Knighty Tin	Respond to of 132070

Joan, I can't remember what was a good score on SAT or ACT tests. I always looked at the percentiles, not the raw number. I do know that 1204 is not usually an Ivy League number, but it may not be below average. I once scored a 103 on a test where the maximum was 100, the Federal Civil Service Exam. They gave me 5 extra points for being a veteran. <G> In the Management Intern program, I met several guys who scored 100. "That's fine," I would say. "Not exactly a 103, but fine, anyway." <vbg> Those guys who got 100 were brilliant. But you have to think they should have received a 99 just for wanting to be a civil servant. Those tests are interesting. My favorite was the GMAT. It changed my goals. I read a piece that said the average score at the California State business schools was 81, while it was 86% for the Univ. of California system. The Ivy League was above 90%, while the creme de la creme, Wharton, was at 92%. When I scored a 96%, I immediately forgot about Chico State and sent off an application to Wharton (and Chicago, Carnegie-Watermelon, Northwestern and Dart in the Mouth). I paid less out of my own pocket, zero outgo plus a living stipend, at Wharton than I would have spent at Chico. I didn't deserve a 96%. I test much smarter than I really am. Especially with Multiple Guess tests.

To: Joan Osland Graffius who wrote (108293)	7/9/2007 12:18:54 AM
From: Knighty Tin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 132070

Joan, It turns out that Yale does not publish its average SAT score. Nor does Harvard. But 1203 isn't that bad and several decent colleges have average scores in that area. Penn, an Ivy Leaguer that does publish is at 1431. They also have a lot of legacy brats. But Bush would be slightly above average at Virginia Tech, which is a decent school. U. of Minnesota, in your area of the country, is very close to averaging that score. However, they now do a separate writing part, so Bush's numbers are irrelevant to the present system.