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To: Joe Btfsplk who wrote (211798)	7/12/2007 3:35:16 PM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793866

I guess I missed it? I haven't seen any animosity, but lots of criticism. Maybe that is your definition of animosity?

To: Joe Btfsplk who wrote (211798)	7/12/2007 4:16:40 PM
From: goldworldnet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793866

I personally like Ron Paul’s libertarian bent, but realistically he’s a maverick and you can’t get the nomination without party support. * * *

To: Joe Btfsplk who wrote (211798)	7/12/2007 6:27:38 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793866

Washington eagerly supported a treaty of alliance with France during the Revolution: The Treaty of Alliance with France was signed on February 6, 1778, creating a military alliance between the United States and France against Great Britain. Negotiated by the American diplomats Benjamin Franklin, Silas Deane, and Arthur Lee, the Treaty of Alliance required that neither France nor the United States agree to a separate peace with Great Britain, and that American independence be a condition of any future peace agreement. In addition to the Treaty of Alliance, the Treaty of Amity and Commerce with France was signed on February 6, 1778, promoting trade and commercial ties between the two countries. loc.gov After the war and after the French Revolution, the Washington administration negotiated Jay's treaty with the British and ended the treaty with France already referred to. Jefferson sent the US Navy and Marines to North Africa to wage war on foreign pirates - the first commitment of American troops outside of North America, I believe. And in the ME, as a matter of fact, where they overthrew a ruler and put another in his place. So here's one of the founding fathers setting the example of military intervention in the ME when American interests and security are threatened. Madison invaded Canada. Another foreign intervention. Do I need to go on. The founding fathers weren't isolationists or "non-interventionist" like Ron Paul. ---------------------------- Still, the level of animosity toward him here surprises me. I think the idea that this thread is seething with animosity for Paul is overblown. I certainly don't have animosity for him. Which isn't to say I will support him. There is a repugnance at the idea of liberals thinking they can so easily divide conservatives.